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]]> By: TechIQ » Archive » Novell: The Avis of Open Source? http://www.thevarguy.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-59030 TechIQ » Archive » Novell: The Avis of Open Source? Sun, 06 Jan 2008 02:49:05 +0000 http://techiqmag.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/#comment-59030 [...] Hat may regret such statements if upstarts like Canonical (promoter of Ubuntu Linux) gain momentum or if another disruptive technology comes along. But the market share prediction [...] [...] Hat may regret such statements if upstarts like Canonical (promoter of Ubuntu Linux) gain momentum or if another disruptive technology comes along. But the market share prediction [...]

]]> By: TechIQ » Archive » Dell Sells 40,000 Linux Desktops; Preps Ubuntu Server Push http://www.thevarguy.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-59022 TechIQ » Archive » Dell Sells 40,000 Linux Desktops; Preps Ubuntu Server Push Sun, 06 Jan 2008 02:23:55 +0000 http://techiqmag.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/#comment-59022 [...] and again in October that Canonical — Ubuntu’s promoter — planned to make a small business server push sometime in late 2007 or 2008. Now, reports are circulating that Dell will jump on that [...] [...] and again in October that Canonical — Ubuntu’s promoter — planned to make a small business server push sometime in late 2007 or 2008. Now, reports are circulating that Dell will jump on that [...]

]]> By: wepouys http://www.thevarguy.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-33772 wepouys Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:23:34 +0000 http://techiqmag.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/#comment-33772 <p>Hello ! Sorry to bother you. I found this forum when looking through google for forums to use. I need to install a forum on my website but I cannot find where it is sold.</p> <p>Where did you get this one</p> <p>Thanks for any assistance</p> Hello !
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]]> By: New Linux Server Competition for Novell, Red Hat? « Fabiofilho’s Weblog http://www.thevarguy.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-33755 New Linux Server Competition for Novell, Red Hat? « Fabiofilho’s Weblog Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:06:39 +0000 http://techiqmag.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/#comment-33755 <p>[...] Complete Story: http://techiqmag.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/ [...]</p> [...] Complete Story: http://techiqmag.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/ [...]

]]> By: The VAR Guy http://www.thevarguy.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-33329 The VAR Guy Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:13:01 +0000 http://techiqmag.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/#comment-33329 <p>Don,</p> <p>You are welcome to post comments on this site anytime. Nothing like a little bit of attitude to wake up the crowd.</p> <p>The VAR Guy thinks Ubuntu has a shot on servers with the LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, P...) crowd. But you're right: This ain't a solution for everyone -- especially all of those storage utilities you mentioned. Far too many people think Linux is ready for prime time across the board. The VAR Guy is a Linux fan, but a realist as well.</p> Don,

You are welcome to post comments on this site anytime. Nothing like a little bit of attitude to wake up the crowd.

The VAR Guy thinks Ubuntu has a shot on servers with the LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, P…) crowd. But you’re right: This ain’t a solution for everyone — especially all of those storage utilities you mentioned. Far too many people think Linux is ready for prime time across the board. The VAR Guy is a Linux fan, but a realist as well.

]]> By: Don V http://www.thevarguy.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-33325 Don V Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:33:23 +0000 http://techiqmag.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/#comment-33325 <p>Wow. That's great. Let us know when Oracle, SAP, PeopleSoft, Veritas, the Tivoli line, "name your Enterprise storage utility", etc, etc, etc support it.</p> <p>"Distro Religion" is great - too bad it doesn't answer the phone when the server is down.</p> <p>I seriously doubt RH and Novell have much to be concerned over, but nice try. I agree, VAR Guy, that there's some impressive stuff there, but as a rather well-known nerd from Redmond is purported to have said: "The best doesn't always win".....</p> <p>JMO Don</p> Wow. That’s great. Let us know when Oracle, SAP, PeopleSoft, Veritas, the Tivoli line, “name your Enterprise storage utility”, etc, etc, etc support it.

“Distro Religion” is great – too bad it doesn’t answer the phone when the server is down.

I seriously doubt RH and Novell have much to be concerned over, but nice try. I agree, VAR Guy, that there’s some impressive stuff there, but as a rather well-known nerd from Redmond is purported to have said: “The best doesn’t always win”…..

JMO
Don

]]> By: blackhole http://www.thevarguy.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-33254 blackhole Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:15:56 +0000 http://techiqmag.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/#comment-33254 <p>Any qualified sys-admin will not have an issue with "sudo over a true root." It can be changed in under 5 minutes. I am not a qualified sys-admin and I had no trouble with doing so.</p> Any qualified sys-admin will not have an issue with “sudo over a true root.” It can be changed in under 5 minutes. I am not a qualified sys-admin and I had no trouble with doing so.

]]> By: Dave Lane http://www.thevarguy.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-33133 Dave Lane Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:08:12 +0000 http://techiqmag.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/#comment-33133 <p>The business I run, in Christchurch, NZ, has been providing Ubuntu powered servers for small to medium businesses as well as an Ubuntu hosting infrastructure for the past 3 years. Since starting in 1998, we've gone from Red Hat to Mandrake to Ubuntu, and I must say, from a stability point of view, Ubuntu is on par with the others, the whole sudo vs. root argument mentioned by the poster above is a non-issue (you can log on as root if you want to, we use key-based SSH authentication). From a maintainability point of view, the Deb-based Ubuntu system is head and shoulders above anything RPM-based I've ever tried. Plus the ability to have a conservative system if we want (pinning debs, for instance) while at the same time having the ability to use up-to-date server software (PHP 5.2 anyone), along with the quality of packages contributed by the community make it unbeatable. The best thing, however, is the business model - Mark S. and Co. <em>get open source</em>. The rest are trying to do an old-school corporate dance around it with business model-kludges like commercial and community versions, dual licensing, and other unnecessary complexities. Canonical/Ubuntu foundation are showing that you don't need to compromise freedom and ethics to run a successful business. I, for one, am working hard to help the Ubuntu community (Canonical included) show the Novells of the world how it <em>should</em> be done.</p> <p>All the best,</p> <p>Dave</p> The business I run, in Christchurch, NZ, has been providing Ubuntu powered servers for small to medium businesses as well as an Ubuntu hosting infrastructure for the past 3 years. Since starting in 1998, we’ve gone from Red Hat to Mandrake to Ubuntu, and I must say, from a stability point of view, Ubuntu is on par with the others, the whole sudo vs. root argument mentioned by the poster above is a non-issue (you can log on as root if you want to, we use key-based SSH authentication). From a maintainability point of view, the Deb-based Ubuntu system is head and shoulders above anything RPM-based I’ve ever tried. Plus the ability to have a conservative system if we want (pinning debs, for instance) while at the same time having the ability to use up-to-date server software (PHP 5.2 anyone), along with the quality of packages contributed by the community make it unbeatable. The best thing, however, is the business model – Mark S. and Co. get open source. The rest are trying to do an old-school corporate dance around it with business model-kludges like commercial and community versions, dual licensing, and other unnecessary complexities. Canonical/Ubuntu foundation are showing that you don’t need to compromise freedom and ethics to run a successful business. I, for one, am working hard to help the Ubuntu community (Canonical included) show the Novells of the world how it should be done.

All the best,

Dave

]]> By: Devn Null http://www.thevarguy.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-33120 Devn Null Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:06:47 +0000 http://techiqmag.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/#comment-33120 <p>Ubuntu is an after-thought when it comes to server OSes. They try to get fancy with their dumb code-names, when instead they should try and get fancy with actual functionality of their products, which in my estimation, suck!!</p> <p>After using Red-Hat for several years, I'm upgraded to SLED 10/openSuse 10.3 and couldn't be happier. I'll try Ubuntu's 15.0 release in 2020.</p> Ubuntu is an after-thought when it comes to server OSes. They try to get fancy with their dumb code-names, when instead they should try and get fancy with actual functionality of their products, which in my estimation, suck!!

After using Red-Hat for several years, I’m upgraded to SLED 10/openSuse 10.3 and couldn’t be happier. I’ll try Ubuntu’s 15.0 release in 2020.

]]> By: igknighted http://www.thevarguy.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-33116 igknighted Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:19:41 +0000 http://techiqmag.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/#comment-33116 <p>No one will take Canonical seriously until 8.04's LTS release. 6 months is just not long enough on a server. Besides, their insistence on sticking with sudo over a true root is not comforting for a true server deployment. I think they will gain ground from where they are, but have a long way to go before they pass Mandriva, Debian, Xandros and others to claim that they are truly a threat to RHEL and SLED.</p> <p>Oh, and lets not forget that almost any flavour of BSD is more desirable for servers, as well as OpenSolaris.</p> No one will take Canonical seriously until 8.04′s LTS release. 6 months is just not long enough on a server. Besides, their insistence on sticking with sudo over a true root is not comforting for a true server deployment. I think they will gain ground from where they are, but have a long way to go before they pass Mandriva, Debian, Xandros and others to claim that they are truly a threat to RHEL and SLED.

Oh, and lets not forget that almost any flavour of BSD is more desirable for servers, as well as OpenSolaris.

]]> By: Gutsy Gibbon 7.10 does not mean pre-installed UBuntu on the server — Enterprise Linux Log http://www.thevarguy.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-33114 Gutsy Gibbon 7.10 does not mean pre-installed UBuntu on the server — Enterprise Linux Log Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:06:37 +0000 http://techiqmag.com/2007/10/10/new-linux-competition-for-novell-red-hat/#comment-33114 <p>[...] VAR guy over at TechIQ says Red Hat and Novell could be rubbing elbows with Ubuntu soon if Gutsy’s new server features are any indication. He also cites IDC, via a ComputerWorld [...]</p> [...] VAR guy over at TechIQ says Red Hat and Novell could be rubbing elbows with Ubuntu soon if Gutsy’s new server features are any indication. He also cites IDC, via a ComputerWorld [...]

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