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	<title>Comments on: Point-of-Sale Systems Going Open Source?</title>
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		<title>By: The VAR Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2007/11/13/point-of-sale-systems-going-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-81446</link>
		<dc:creator>The VAR Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Louis: Have you been in direct contact with Openbravo? Let The VAR Guy know if you&#039;d like some introductions to the company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Louis: Have you been in direct contact with Openbravo? Let The VAR Guy know if you&#8217;d like some introductions to the company.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Sayers</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2007/11/13/point-of-sale-systems-going-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-81441</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis Sayers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My uncle is about to buy a bar, and I&#039;m assuming that the bar is probably pretty low down the technology side of things.

I&#039;ve been looking at Openbravo as a possible POS system. - it seems to be the only open source piece of software that is functional.

Yet I&#039;m very unimpressed by the usability of the damn thing.  Just try add a new category - how confusing! and you don&#039;t know what the buttons do, as there are no tooltips for mouseover(I know it&#039;s supposed to be touch screen - but I&#039;ll assume you will be using mouse and keyboard for product setup!)

Yes, it seems much too complicated than what it has to be, and I&#039;ve managed to find at one bug so far from my limited playing.

The plus side is that it&#039;s open source, and I&#039;m a programmer.

The lack of documentation for open bravo is a bit of a worry - I&#039;m always bought over by good documentation, and OpenBravo isn&#039;t winning me over.  I might consider donating some time to the project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My uncle is about to buy a bar, and I&#8217;m assuming that the bar is probably pretty low down the technology side of things.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been looking at Openbravo as a possible POS system. &#8211; it seems to be the only open source piece of software that is functional.</p>
<p>Yet I&#8217;m very unimpressed by the usability of the damn thing.  Just try add a new category &#8211; how confusing! and you don&#8217;t know what the buttons do, as there are no tooltips for mouseover(I know it&#8217;s supposed to be touch screen &#8211; but I&#8217;ll assume you will be using mouse and keyboard for product setup!)</p>
<p>Yes, it seems much too complicated than what it has to be, and I&#8217;ve managed to find at one bug so far from my limited playing.</p>
<p>The plus side is that it&#8217;s open source, and I&#8217;m a programmer.</p>
<p>The lack of documentation for open bravo is a bit of a worry &#8211; I&#8217;m always bought over by good documentation, and OpenBravo isn&#8217;t winning me over.  I might consider donating some time to the project.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2007/11/13/point-of-sale-systems-going-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-81159</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy: Why are you so interested in POS? Are you a solutions provider? Software developer? Seems like you&#039;ve got considerable experience in the POS market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy: Why are you so interested in POS? Are you a solutions provider? Software developer? Seems like you&#8217;ve got considerable experience in the POS market.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Stalding</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2007/11/13/point-of-sale-systems-going-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-81126</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Stalding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears that Point Of Sale(POS)software is beginning to receive more attention from software developers.  After surfing through the many listings of POS products it seems to me that developers do not have a clear understanding of the small business market place.  Most of the products are far to sophisticated.  Let me explain.

The bottom tier of POS needs is just one step removed from a carbonless receipt pad or a single cash register.  The customer wants a hardcopy receipt detailing what was purchased, any taxes, and the total for goods.  The retailer must have a record of what was sold and the taxes collected for the state.  And of course the same information applies to customer refunds.  End of day totals are needed to balance the  cash box and prepare a bank deposit. At the end of the month, the retailer needs totals for all goods sold (taxable and non-taxable) and taxes collected.  The monthly totals are then used for excise tax reporting and for general ledger accounting.  In all likelihood, the retailer runs a one or two person shop.  Credit/debit cards are usually handled through a  credit card terminal.

The second tier of POS needs gets a bit more sophisticated.  If we have records for what we have sold for a given period of time, we can use the information to help place orders for goods.  We may also wish to record information about our special customers.  This is the point in time where a computerized POS begins to assist the retailer. 

The third tier of POS needs is characterized by business growth.  It is when a second clerk is hired and a second cash register is needed.  Record keeping begins to get a little more tedious and information from two sources needs to be combined to produce reporting totals.  At this point if we were using two PC&#039;s for cash registers, we would probable need a backroom server.  Barcoding, display pole, credit/ debit card integration and other features would not provide any benefit at this point since the stock keeping Unit(SKU) count is not particularly high.

The fourth tier represents retailer needs for a business that has survived for more that two years.  Success means inventory and capital growth.  It is time to introduce the levels of sophistication currently offered POS developers.

During the first three tiers of retail needs, most small businesses have a limited amount of capital and credit.  Most businesses fail during this period.  There is a market for inexpensive, simple, POS software to help these folks along the road to success, and to provide an upgrade path for more sophisticated systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that Point Of Sale(POS)software is beginning to receive more attention from software developers.  After surfing through the many listings of POS products it seems to me that developers do not have a clear understanding of the small business market place.  Most of the products are far to sophisticated.  Let me explain.</p>
<p>The bottom tier of POS needs is just one step removed from a carbonless receipt pad or a single cash register.  The customer wants a hardcopy receipt detailing what was purchased, any taxes, and the total for goods.  The retailer must have a record of what was sold and the taxes collected for the state.  And of course the same information applies to customer refunds.  End of day totals are needed to balance the  cash box and prepare a bank deposit. At the end of the month, the retailer needs totals for all goods sold (taxable and non-taxable) and taxes collected.  The monthly totals are then used for excise tax reporting and for general ledger accounting.  In all likelihood, the retailer runs a one or two person shop.  Credit/debit cards are usually handled through a  credit card terminal.</p>
<p>The second tier of POS needs gets a bit more sophisticated.  If we have records for what we have sold for a given period of time, we can use the information to help place orders for goods.  We may also wish to record information about our special customers.  This is the point in time where a computerized POS begins to assist the retailer. </p>
<p>The third tier of POS needs is characterized by business growth.  It is when a second clerk is hired and a second cash register is needed.  Record keeping begins to get a little more tedious and information from two sources needs to be combined to produce reporting totals.  At this point if we were using two PC&#8217;s for cash registers, we would probable need a backroom server.  Barcoding, display pole, credit/ debit card integration and other features would not provide any benefit at this point since the stock keeping Unit(SKU) count is not particularly high.</p>
<p>The fourth tier represents retailer needs for a business that has survived for more that two years.  Success means inventory and capital growth.  It is time to introduce the levels of sophistication currently offered POS developers.</p>
<p>During the first three tiers of retail needs, most small businesses have a limited amount of capital and credit.  Most businesses fail during this period.  There is a market for inexpensive, simple, POS software to help these folks along the road to success, and to provide an upgrade path for more sophisticated systems.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2007/11/13/point-of-sale-systems-going-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-67405</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 20:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Some old blog entries never seem to die. Nice to see continued interest in this topic. I wasn&#039;t sure whether VARs would care about point of sale open source. But in recent months, this post has generated some of our top traffic...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Some old blog entries never seem to die. Nice to see continued interest in this topic. I wasn&#8217;t sure whether VARs would care about point of sale open source. But in recent months, this post has generated some of our top traffic&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Openbravo POS follower</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2007/11/13/point-of-sale-systems-going-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-67382</link>
		<dc:creator>Openbravo POS follower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 20:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skerit: Multiple tickets per table will be in the 2.10 version of Openbravo POS. The new feature is called &quot;Split receipts&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skerit: Multiple tickets per table will be in the 2.10 version of Openbravo POS. The new feature is called &#8220;Split receipts&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: skerit</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2007/11/13/point-of-sale-systems-going-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-63125</link>
		<dc:creator>skerit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to use Openbravo POS but --- You still can&#039;t have multiple tickets per table! What the hell?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to use Openbravo POS but &#8212; You still can&#8217;t have multiple tickets per table! What the hell?</p>
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		<title>By: thevarguy</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2007/11/13/point-of-sale-systems-going-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-62915</link>
		<dc:creator>thevarguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When did you start using OpenBravo? Are you a retailer or a consultant who sells into the retail vertical? Would love to hear more about your experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When did you start using OpenBravo? Are you a retailer or a consultant who sells into the retail vertical? Would love to hear more about your experiences.</p>
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		<title>By: Point0fSale</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2007/11/13/point-of-sale-systems-going-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-62882</link>
		<dc:creator>Point0fSale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OpenBravo is pretty darn good. It may be a bit strange for some Windows users, but they will get used to it, if they work with it for a few hours. The biggest void is the lack of a good manual. Many of the commands and features are hit and miss to figure out what to do. Your screen has to be at least 1024 x 768 or the screen will loose all kinds of needed stuff. A little slow at times so if you want to ring up stuff very fast it may be frustrating. I&#039;ve seen worse at a much higher price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OpenBravo is pretty darn good. It may be a bit strange for some Windows users, but they will get used to it, if they work with it for a few hours. The biggest void is the lack of a good manual. Many of the commands and features are hit and miss to figure out what to do. Your screen has to be at least 1024 x 768 or the screen will loose all kinds of needed stuff. A little slow at times so if you want to ring up stuff very fast it may be frustrating. I&#8217;ve seen worse at a much higher price.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Durden</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2007/11/13/point-of-sale-systems-going-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-59473</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Durden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are looking at going to Activant&#039;s Eclipse System ---saw where MikeFM says that it sucks. Why does it suck? Anyone else have an opinion on Eclipse?

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are looking at going to Activant&#8217;s Eclipse System &#8212;saw where MikeFM says that it sucks. Why does it suck? Anyone else have an opinion on Eclipse?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Ethan</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2007/11/13/point-of-sale-systems-going-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-59079</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Open Bravo is built on the Compiere model.  ADempiere is a fork of Compiere as well and it has a simple POS system available.

We have also had great success implementing OFBiz POS as well.  OFBiz is well worth looking at too.  

Feel free to contact me for a features and benefits white paper or to ask any questions about the various open source solutions.

We work with a number of options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Open Bravo is built on the Compiere model.  ADempiere is a fork of Compiere as well and it has a simple POS system available.</p>
<p>We have also had great success implementing OFBiz POS as well.  OFBiz is well worth looking at too.  </p>
<p>Feel free to contact me for a features and benefits white paper or to ask any questions about the various open source solutions.</p>
<p>We work with a number of options.</p>
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		<title>By: TechIQ &#187; Archive &#187; 10 Open Source Companies Set to Dominate 2008</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2007/11/13/point-of-sale-systems-going-open-source/comment-page-1/#comment-59015</link>
		<dc:creator>TechIQ &#187; Archive &#187; 10 Open Source Companies Set to Dominate 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 02:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on-site deployments or hosted deployments? That&#8217;s where OpenBravo enters the picture. Upside: Recent acquisition pushes OpenBravo into the point-of-sale market. That&#8217;s a natural extension to ERP. Challenges: Headquartered in Spain, OpenBravo needs to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on-site deployments or hosted deployments? That&#8217;s where OpenBravo enters the picture. Upside: Recent acquisition pushes OpenBravo into the point-of-sale market. That&#8217;s a natural extension to ERP. Challenges: Headquartered in Spain, OpenBravo needs to [...]</p>
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