Novell DragoonGive Novell credit. Rather than slamming The VAR Guy for a particularly harsh blog post about the software company, Novell reached out to him and engaged in a healthy dialog. During a lengthy telephone chat, Novell Senior VP and Chief Marketing Officer John Dragoon (pictured) discussed the company’s business performance and strategy. Here’s a recap of the conversation, and some updated reactions from The VAR Guy.

First, let’s rewind a bit. The VAR Guy on January 17 posted a blog entry questioning whether Novell could remain relevant as the open source application market begins to consolidate through mergers and acquisitions. The VAR Guy regrets the blog’s headline (”Did Novell Just Die?”). It was too over the top, even for him.

However, our resident blogger continues to think Novell will need to greatly strengthen its position in the open source application market — either by partnering more deeply, building its own applications, or buying applications (a la Sun’s deal to acquire MySQL).

Dragoon, however, points out that the software industry involves more than operating systems and traditional applications. Yes, Novell has established application partnerships in place, he pointed out. But as a software and infrastructure company, Dragoon notes, Novell plays at additional software layers, such as systems management, security management and identity management.

So, I think this is where The VAR Guy and Dragoon see the market differently. In the 1990s and even now, many of the most successful software companies (Oracle, Microsoft, SAP, etc.) pushed beyond their base products and continued to strengthen their hand with applications (ERP, CRM, etc.), The VAR Guy notes.

Novell’s Perspective

Dragoon, on the flip side, says Novell can be successful through its existing SuSE Linux application partnerships plus the systems management, security management and identity management “infrastructure” plays. He also noted that SuSE Linux plays from the desktop to the data center.

Ultimately, Novell’s strategy is to make sure it SuSe Linux — and the additional infrastructure services — make Novell the best platform available for running third-party applications, whether they are open source (a la SugarCRM) or closed source (such as Oracle).

The VAR Guy still isn’t convinced that infrastructure-type software can deliver a big payoff for Novell, but Dragoon did offer up some compelling points. Including…

1. Revenue: More than half of Novell’s revenue now comes from growth categories (open source, identity management, systems management, etc.), Dragoon noted. Journalists and bloggers who dwell too much on Novell’s NetWare legacy may be missing half the picture, The VAR Guy concedes. (Yes, The VAR Guy just ate a little crow.)

2. Linux Growth: Even without the partnership with Microsoft, Novell’s Linux sales are growing as fast as — and perhaps slightly faster — than the overall Linux market, Dragoon asserted.

3. Mind Share: Recent market research (conducted by Novell) indicates that “we’re doing quite well when it comes to customer awareness,” Dragoon says. Potential customers, he says, associate Novell with core markets like open source and infrastructure software.

The challenge, Dragoon concedes, is to improve Novell’s marks in terms of customer consideration. In other words, people know of Novell but the company needs to do a better job of getting on the purchase consideration list, Dragoon conceded.

4. Partnerships: Dragoon pointed out that Novell has relationships across the application sector. This is a key area, however, where The VAR Guy continues to have concerns. Yes, Novell works with the vast majority of key ISVs in the market. But in private meetings with The VAR Guy, several of the hottest ISVs are lukewarm at best about Novell’s prospects.

5. Acquisitions: Sometimes your smartest business moves are the acquisitions you don’t make. Dragoon noted that the Red Hat-Jboss combo hasn’t exactly set the world on fire (agreed). And at $1 billion, Sun paid a hefty premium for MySQL (agreed).

Still, acquiring MySQL gives Sun more than a database. It also connects Sun with thousands of open source application developers. Microsoft became a dominant company because of its ISVs as well as its own applications. Oracle became dominate because of ISVs and applications. Novell has a critical mass of ISVs, but are they passionate about SuSE Linux? Are they willing to put Novell at the center of the platform universe?

Here again, Dragoon points out that SuSE Linux will continue to do well if the operating system and the Novell infrastructure around it provide the best foundation for third-party applications.

Time will tell if Dragoon and Novell are right. And while Novell and The VAR Guy don’t always see eye to eye, the lines of communication are open between our resident blogger and the software provider. If you’re interested in more thoughts from Dragoon, here’s a link to his corporate blog at Novell.

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10 Comments on “Novell States Its Case”

  1. novl fan Says:

    some members of the open source crowd spend a lot of time bashing novl. but some of the moves are completely misunderstood. ask most IT directors and they’ll tell you the msft/novl relationship is good for their business.

  2. Boycott Novell » Novell Still Kisses Bloggers’ Behinds for Positive Publicity Says:

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  3. Guy Says:

    Quote: “ask most IT directors and they’ll tell you the msft/novl relationship is good for their business”

    But at what cost. The deal seems to imply that there is truth in the ms allegations about copyright infringment. Novell gains are at the community’s expense.

  4. W. Anderson Says:

    I surely hope Mr. Dragoon of Novell would not try to insult the intelligence of citizenry by implying -through omission – that Novell’s business upturn fortunes without the Microsoft deal moneys have had no effect on companies who deal with Novell solely because they value the Microsoft insurance – some call extortion tax – via Novell.

    Unfortunately nothing appears to be changed from the very naive and deceptive approach Novell has taken in regard the whole Microsoft patent tax issue.

    I can attest to the fact that a consulting associate client’s hotel property in the Caribbean was willing to switch from RedHat to Novell Suse only because of their concern about reprisals from Microsoft. Such decision had nothing to do with any superiority of products or services form Novell, which they found to be lacking.

    Therefore I still consider Novell a leech and parasite not only on GNU/Linux technology but the worldwide community and the Free/Open Source Software spirit as well.

    W. Anderson
    wanderson@nac.net

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  7. nanotech Says:

    Well my two most used distros are SLED/SLES/SuSe and Ubuntu. CentOS comes in a distant third. RH priced themselves out of my area (nothing against RH) SuSe/Ubuntu has better drivers out of the box; I could care less if some are “closed”. I need jobs done and business to run… face it they are still better than MS proper. If we could have more support from hardware vendors (I wouldn’t give away my tech either, but I would contrib framwork) even if “closed” we could see more Linux usage and more apps for business

  8. JadedEye Says:

    Nice to see some balance even though Dragoon and the VAR Guy still don’t agree on everything. The bash Novell camp needs to find a new pinata

  9. FreeToSpeak Says:

    I dont get it, why bash a company that is one of the key sets behind Unix / system 5 and in all Linux. you might not agree, but linux would never have come into live without Unix being first. they have been round the system, and i can see them comming round again. just give them a chance, in all its good for everyone. we dont need just one OS, we need many. but they must be stable, clean and most of all usable. Novell has this and does a good, no very good job of it. Give it a rest with the bashing and try supporting, its rather a nice change to see.

  10. Richard Steven Hack Says:

    The Microsoft deal was irrelevant. I said so at the time, and that’s how it has played out. Nobody cares. All Microsoft got was a little FUD and managed to trip over their own feet by giving people more reason to go Linux.

    At this point, Microsoft has bigger fish to fry than Linux anyway. If they can’t get Yahoo, they’re never going to compete against Google. In fact, even if they do get Yahoo, they STILL won’t be able to compete against Google. And when potential large Web site customers realize Yahoo and Google and Amazon don’t run on Windows, Linux will gain again.

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