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	<title>Comments on: Will Open Source World Welcome Microsoft-Yahoo Combo?</title>
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		<title>By: Microsoft&#8217;s Yahoo Takeover&#8230; Are Zimbra&#8217;s Days Numbered? &#124; InfTek Hosting</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/01/will-open-source-world-welcome-microsoft-yahoo-combo/comment-page-1/#comment-62327</link>
		<dc:creator>Microsoft&#8217;s Yahoo Takeover&#8230; Are Zimbra&#8217;s Days Numbered? &#124; InfTek Hosting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 12:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] worry the email platform will suffer harm - or even death - at the hands of Microsoft. A series of blog reader comments posted on TheVARguy.com earlier today express fear, uncertainty and doubt about Zimbra&#8217;s future under potential Microsoft [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] worry the email platform will suffer harm &#8211; or even death &#8211; at the hands of Microsoft. A series of blog reader comments posted on TheVARguy.com earlier today express fear, uncertainty and doubt about Zimbra&#8217;s future under potential Microsoft [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/01/will-open-source-world-welcome-microsoft-yahoo-combo/comment-page-1/#comment-61515</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is something we all can do. This website is trying to get the word out.
http://www.freezimbranow.org/
There is also an online petition at : http://www.PetitionOnline.com/zimbra01/petition.html
Please go here to support zimbra and protect it from Microsoft</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is something we all can do. This website is trying to get the word out.<br />
<a href="http://www.freezimbranow.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.freezimbranow.org/</a><br />
There is also an online petition at : <a href="http://www.PetitionOnline.com/zimbra01/petition.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.PetitionOnline.com/zimbra01/petition.html</a><br />
Please go here to support zimbra and protect it from Microsoft</p>
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		<title>By: Andydread</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/01/will-open-source-world-welcome-microsoft-yahoo-combo/comment-page-1/#comment-59987</link>
		<dc:creator>Andydread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 00:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cannot fork it.  The ZPL and now the YPL prevents that.  This is not true open-source. This badgeware.  SugarCRM suffered from this problem also but now the are GPL3 so their customers are safe in this scenario.  I don&#039;t even think the Zimbra people can fork it even if they wanted to because the logo (which you must leave on *every page*) is trademarked and now MS will own this trademark.  It seems they may have shot themselves in the foot with this badgeware license.   Badgeware does not protect the customer from buyouts it seems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cannot fork it.  The ZPL and now the YPL prevents that.  This is not true open-source. This badgeware.  SugarCRM suffered from this problem also but now the are GPL3 so their customers are safe in this scenario.  I don&#8217;t even think the Zimbra people can fork it even if they wanted to because the logo (which you must leave on *every page*) is trademarked and now MS will own this trademark.  It seems they may have shot themselves in the foot with this badgeware license.   Badgeware does not protect the customer from buyouts it seems.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/01/will-open-source-world-welcome-microsoft-yahoo-combo/comment-page-1/#comment-59984</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 23:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zimbra. What would be really interesting would be to see a fork of Zimbra compete against the proprietary development model ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zimbra. What would be really interesting would be to see a fork of Zimbra compete against the proprietary development model <img src='http://www.thevarguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: db</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/01/will-open-source-world-welcome-microsoft-yahoo-combo/comment-page-1/#comment-59983</link>
		<dc:creator>db</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 23:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Zimbra mess shows the importance of the license open source is developed under. What did the developer think when they read the Yahoo! Public License (YPL). Maybe they did not read it, do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Zimbra mess shows the importance of the license open source is developed under. What did the developer think when they read the Yahoo! Public License (YPL). Maybe they did not read it, do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: JayDee</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/01/will-open-source-world-welcome-microsoft-yahoo-combo/comment-page-1/#comment-59980</link>
		<dc:creator>JayDee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zimbra falling under the control of Microsoft is a VERY VERY bad thing. (Zimbra falling under the control of Yahoo is a bad thing too)

However if this does happen and Microsoft kills Zimbra perhaps the Opensource Community will start to work more on the Bongo project. (Formerly Hula Project.) http://bongo-project.org That *could* be a replacement for Zimbra and it&#039;s freely open source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zimbra falling under the control of Microsoft is a VERY VERY bad thing. (Zimbra falling under the control of Yahoo is a bad thing too)</p>
<p>However if this does happen and Microsoft kills Zimbra perhaps the Opensource Community will start to work more on the Bongo project. (Formerly Hula Project.) <a href="http://bongo-project.org" rel="nofollow">http://bongo-project.org</a> That *could* be a replacement for Zimbra and it&#8217;s freely open source.</p>
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		<title>By: Andydread</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/01/will-open-source-world-welcome-microsoft-yahoo-combo/comment-page-1/#comment-59979</link>
		<dc:creator>Andydread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may be very very bad for Zimbra.  Zimbra is a successful MS Exchange replacement and I cannot see any reason for Microsoft to keep this train running.  I fear this is the end of the line for Zimbra.  I hope I am wrong.  I truly hope I am wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may be very very bad for Zimbra.  Zimbra is a successful MS Exchange replacement and I cannot see any reason for Microsoft to keep this train running.  I fear this is the end of the line for Zimbra.  I hope I am wrong.  I truly hope I am wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main things that concern me are Zimbra which would probably be shut down and a shining example of a LAMP variant (yes its BSD but I think LAMP now refers to the general idea or combination) being lost. I&#039;m wondering if MS would over time move the Yahoo operations onto a .Net platform and begin spewing performance gain talk whether there was one or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main things that concern me are Zimbra which would probably be shut down and a shining example of a LAMP variant (yes its BSD but I think LAMP now refers to the general idea or combination) being lost. I&#8217;m wondering if MS would over time move the Yahoo operations onto a .Net platform and begin spewing performance gain talk whether there was one or not.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/01/will-open-source-world-welcome-microsoft-yahoo-combo/comment-page-1/#comment-59964</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3 dB: Fair point on BAMP vs. LAMP. I will get The VAR Guy to apologize. #4 John Z: Nice analogy with Time Warner-AOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#3 dB: Fair point on BAMP vs. LAMP. I will get The VAR Guy to apologize. #4 John Z: Nice analogy with Time Warner-AOL.</p>
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		<title>By: John Zbesko</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/01/will-open-source-world-welcome-microsoft-yahoo-combo/comment-page-1/#comment-59956</link>
		<dc:creator>John Zbesko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dinosaurs mating (merging.) Evolution (open source and Google) has past them by. This merger will be as successful as Time Warner and AOL. The wasted investment of MSN can be buried in Yahoo.

Microsoft refuses to see the end of the large-scale proprietary software business model while the rest of the industry turns to a service/consulting business model.

Google remains the top search site because it is the top search site. Until a distributed search engine is developed and adopted by hundreds of thousands (similar to peer-to-peer file sharing), Google will remain on top. And the motivation for a peer-to-peer search engine will be the freedom from (or lack of) the commercial aspects (ads, collection of user data, etc.) that Google must continue to develop to satisfy its shareholders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dinosaurs mating (merging.) Evolution (open source and Google) has past them by. This merger will be as successful as Time Warner and AOL. The wasted investment of MSN can be buried in Yahoo.</p>
<p>Microsoft refuses to see the end of the large-scale proprietary software business model while the rest of the industry turns to a service/consulting business model.</p>
<p>Google remains the top search site because it is the top search site. Until a distributed search engine is developed and adopted by hundreds of thousands (similar to peer-to-peer file sharing), Google will remain on top. And the motivation for a peer-to-peer search engine will be the freedom from (or lack of) the commercial aspects (ads, collection of user data, etc.) that Google must continue to develop to satisfy its shareholders.</p>
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		<title>By: db</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/01/will-open-source-world-welcome-microsoft-yahoo-combo/comment-page-1/#comment-59955</link>
		<dc:creator>db</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought that Yahoo used BAMP (BSD, Apache, MySQL, and Perl/PHP/Python) not LAMP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought that Yahoo used BAMP (BSD, Apache, MySQL, and Perl/PHP/Python) not LAMP.</p>
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		<title>By: Nickd</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/01/will-open-source-world-welcome-microsoft-yahoo-combo/comment-page-1/#comment-59954</link>
		<dc:creator>Nickd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I see this as the end of my yahoo mail account also. I will begin to use my gmail account more often and besides, the gmail interface is so much faster than the latest yahoo beta mail interface.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I see this as the end of my yahoo mail account also. I will begin to use my gmail account more often and besides, the gmail interface is so much faster than the latest yahoo beta mail interface.</p>
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