Comments on: Zimbra Proponents Fear Microsoft-Yahoo Combo

By: Subhankar

Subhankar — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:02:21 +0000

It would have been GPL, it would have not suffered this
premature death, another example of-how bazar kills the
technology!

By: Gerald

Gerald — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 06:30:10 +0000

Forking? Seems allowed.
# 3.2 – In any copy of the Software or in any Modification you create, You must retain and reproduce, any and all copyright, patent, trademark, and attribution notices that are included in the Software in the same form as they appear in the Software. This includes the preservation of attribution notices in the form of trademarks or logos that exist within a user interface of the Software.
# 3.3 – This license does not grant You rights to use any party’s name, logo, or trademarks, except solely as necessary to comply with Section 3.2.

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By: Kevin Donnelly

Kevin Donnelly — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 14:17:34 +0000

Zarafa? For why? The licensing for it is unclear, so how would it prevent the same thing happening again?

By: ruurd

ruurd — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 11:27:14 +0000

Well, anyone, dump Zimbra, get Zarafa. (www.zarafa.com)

By: Yahoo ate Zimbra now do Microsoft eat Zimbra ?

Yahoo ate Zimbra now do Microsoft eat Zimbra ? — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 08:41:34 +0000

[...] Yahoo became public news the Zimbra forums and the web generally has been busy with the sound of Zimbra customers showing genuine concern and a lot of cautionary angst over the future of Zimbra in a Microsoft “owned” empire [...]

By: Richard Bliss

Richard Bliss — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 06:28:25 +0000

Microsoft did not kill Hula at Novell. That product was dead long before Microsoft got in the picture.

When the Zimbra acquisition was announced by Yahoo!, that was the death blow. Now Microsoft will shut it down completely or allow it to limp along while the Microsoft team attempts to push the Zimbra install base onto Exchange.

I appreciate the VAR guy believing that Zimbra customers can make a loud noise, but the billions that Exchange generates is too deafening of a sound for anyone to shout over.

Start looking for an alternative.

By: Name

Name — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 03:10:34 +0000

First they buddied up with Novell and killed Hulu, now Zimbra is next.

By: Andydread

Andydread — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 02:27:33 +0000

This is real folks. We are looking at a state wide deployment and we have been testing over the last several months now. The ZPL now the (YPL) does not allow forking it seems. I doesn’t even seem as if the developers could fork it if they chose because the logo is trademarked and therefore the property of Yahoo and presumably Microsoft if this goes through. And the trademarked Logo *cannot* be removed from *any* of the pages in the web client per the license. We are very concerned.

By: db

db — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:25:36 +0000

The Zimbra mess shows the importance of the license open source is developed under. What did the developer think when they read the Yahoo! Public License (YPL). They cannot fork it.

By: max

max — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 00:02:21 +0000

Let’s face it, Microsoft is not expecting any revenue from the Zimbra group out of Yahoo. They offered to by Yahoo at last year’s average stock price to take out another competitor before Google does.
Zimbra, PostPath, Scalix are collaboration softwares that run on Linux. It does not make any sense to maintain or improve a product that will put a dent in their lucrative Windows server business.
You should read about what they did to RAV anti-virus for Linux after they bought it in 2003.