Comments on: Sun’s Next Two Open Source Moves http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/05/suns-next-two-open-source-moves/ What's Next In the IT Channel Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:53:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Sun’s Next Two Open Source Moves - Affordable Web Developer - Just another WordPress weblog on Affordable open source web development. http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/05/suns-next-two-open-source-moves/comment-page-1/#comment-105499 Sun’s Next Two Open Source Moves - Affordable Web Developer - Just another WordPress weblog on Affordable open source web development. Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:10:53 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/05/suns-next-two-open-source-moves/#comment-105499 [...] post by The VAR Guy and syndicated here by [...] [...] post by The VAR Guy and syndicated here by [...]

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]]> By: Alan Pierce http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/05/suns-next-two-open-source-moves/comment-page-1/#comment-60271 Alan Pierce Fri, 08 Feb 2008 05:09:36 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/05/suns-next-two-open-source-moves/#comment-60271 I love Sun. They've done more to invest in real open source innovation than I love Sun. They’ve done more to invest in real open source innovation than

]]> By: OSS-biz » Sun’s Next Two Open Source Moves http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/05/suns-next-two-open-source-moves/comment-page-1/#comment-60262 OSS-biz » Sun’s Next Two Open Source Moves Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:43:37 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/05/suns-next-two-open-source-moves/#comment-60262 [...] “Yes, Sun is acquiring MySQL for $1 billion. But Sun CEO Jonathan Schwartz isn’t done modernizing his company. Not by a long shot. The VAR Guy isn’t ready to predict which company Sun will acquire next, but he has noticed Schwartz getting pretty darn cozy with two fast-growing open source businesses.Indeed, Schwartz is scheduled to be a keynote presenter February 6 at SugarCON, a customer and developer conference hosted by SugarCRM. Separately, Sun apparently is the top sponsor for UbuntuLive, a July 2008 conference for organizations running or deploying Canonical’s Ubuntu Linux.” - Article [...] [...] “Yes, Sun is acquiring MySQL for $1 billion. But Sun CEO Jonathan Schwartz isn’t done modernizing his company. Not by a long shot. The VAR Guy isn’t ready to predict which company Sun will acquire next, but he has noticed Schwartz getting pretty darn cozy with two fast-growing open source businesses.Indeed, Schwartz is scheduled to be a keynote presenter February 6 at SugarCON, a customer and developer conference hosted by SugarCRM. Separately, Sun apparently is the top sponsor for UbuntuLive, a July 2008 conference for organizations running or deploying Canonical’s Ubuntu Linux.” – Article [...]

]]> By: fsdaily.com http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/05/suns-next-two-open-source-moves/comment-page-1/#comment-60247 fsdaily.com Thu, 07 Feb 2008 02:39:55 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/05/suns-next-two-open-source-moves/#comment-60247 <strong>Story added...</strong> This story has been submitted to fsdaily.com! If you think this story should be read by the free software community, come vote it up and discuss it here: http://www.fsdaily.com/Business/Sun_s_Next_Two_Open_Source_Moves... Story added…

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]]> By: Adam Trickett http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/05/suns-next-two-open-source-moves/comment-page-1/#comment-60244 Adam Trickett Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:44:30 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/05/suns-next-two-open-source-moves/#comment-60244 Indeed Nexenta and others are sort of what I mean, however unlike these failed/dead project I mean for it to fully embrace the Debian community. Most of the Debian GNU/Solaris prjects have stalled because they are in a grey legal area and a lot of people who are interested have stayed away until things get sorted out. Indeed Nexenta and others are sort of what I mean, however unlike these failed/dead project I mean for it to fully embrace the Debian community.

Most of the Debian GNU/Solaris prjects have stalled because they are in a grey legal area and a lot of people who are interested have stayed away until things get sorted out.

]]> By: chemicalscum http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/05/suns-next-two-open-source-moves/comment-page-1/#comment-60240 chemicalscum Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:18:51 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/05/suns-next-two-open-source-moves/#comment-60240 "I’ve long said that the best thing Sun could do is give up on Solaris/OpenSolaris as it currently is, and instead build Solaris from Debian, just as Canonical build ubuntu from Debian." You mean like Nexenta: http://www.nexenta.org/os “I’ve long said that the best thing Sun could do is give up on Solaris/OpenSolaris as it currently is, and instead build Solaris from Debian, just as Canonical build ubuntu from Debian.”

You mean like Nexenta:

http://www.nexenta.org/os

]]> By: W. Anderson http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/05/suns-next-two-open-source-moves/comment-page-1/#comment-60239 W. Anderson Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:40:02 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/05/suns-next-two-open-source-moves/#comment-60239 The one important factor missing from comments made by Adam Trickett, is that Sun would to cultivate a better attitude and policies - within Sun and with the Free/Open Source Software (FOSS) community as a "participant and good corporate citizen" rather than the percieved impression of them (still) as a "controlling, strictly self-serving" parasite of FOSS. More time and effort along the present lines of action will convince most skeptics of their "true" positive motives and plans. Products can not achieve such necessary requirements. The one important factor missing from comments made by Adam Trickett, is that Sun would to cultivate a better attitude and policies – within Sun and with the Free/Open Source Software (FOSS) community as a “participant and good corporate citizen” rather than the percieved impression of them (still) as a “controlling, strictly self-serving” parasite of FOSS.

More time and effort along the present lines of action will convince most skeptics of their “true” positive motives and plans.

Products can not achieve such necessary requirements.

]]> By: Adam Trickett http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/05/suns-next-two-open-source-moves/comment-page-1/#comment-60234 Adam Trickett Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:31:50 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/02/05/suns-next-two-open-source-moves/#comment-60234 I've long said that the best thing Sun could do is give up on Solaris/OpenSolaris as it currently is, and instead build Solaris from Debian, just as Canonical build ubuntu from Debian. Unlike most Debian derivatives they'd also be a major upstream supplier too, providing the Solaris Kernel, ZFS, MySQL, OpenOffice, Java etc etc. Just think, you could get "New Solaris" for AMD64 or SPARC, with a Linux or Solais Kernel, a full and modern Debian userland with all the bells + some Enterprise grade apps and support only from Sun. There is no point in Sun engineers wasting time/money porting the latest version of Bash to Solaris, it adds no value. It's much more useful to pay them to do the hard stuff like the Solaris Kernel or ZFS, then let the vast Debian community automatically build and assemble a base distribution. Finally like Canonical do, snap-shot Debian GNU/Solaris Sid every 6 months to build a new release. Donating a few SPARC/AMD64 boxes to the Debian community is cheap if you are Sun, and they have done this in the past. All they need to do is stop messing about and make the kernel and other good stuff legally compatible with the Debian userland and it's a win-win situation. Debian gets an alternative kernel and some new toys to play with, and Sun get the best distribution to build Solaris from... I’ve long said that the best thing Sun could do is give up on Solaris/OpenSolaris as it currently is, and instead build Solaris from Debian, just as Canonical build ubuntu from Debian.

Unlike most Debian derivatives they’d also be a major upstream supplier too, providing the Solaris Kernel, ZFS, MySQL, OpenOffice, Java etc etc.

Just think, you could get “New Solaris” for AMD64 or SPARC, with a Linux or Solais Kernel, a full and modern Debian userland with all the bells + some Enterprise grade apps and support only from Sun.

There is no point in Sun engineers wasting time/money porting the latest version of Bash to Solaris, it adds no value. It’s much more useful to pay them to do the hard stuff like the Solaris Kernel or ZFS, then let the vast Debian community automatically build and assemble a base distribution. Finally like Canonical do, snap-shot Debian GNU/Solaris Sid every 6 months to build a new release.

Donating a few SPARC/AMD64 boxes to the Debian community is cheap if you are Sun, and they have done this in the past. All they need to do is stop messing about and make the kernel and other good stuff legally compatible with the Debian userland and it’s a win-win situation. Debian gets an alternative kernel and some new toys to play with, and Sun get the best distribution to build Solaris from…

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