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	<title>Comments on: The Best Linux Marketing Tip: Don&#8217;t Mention Linux</title>
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		<title>By: some girls go for gadgets</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/03/27/the-var-guys-next-pc-linux-inside/comment-page-1/#comment-106073</link>
		<dc:creator>some girls go for gadgets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the mall. The Droid is not exactly forthcoming about being a product built on Linux and to some, this is a good idea. Still, if they would mention Linux in even a quarter of their advertising and posters, they would [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the mall. The Droid is not exactly forthcoming about being a product built on Linux and to some, this is a good idea. Still, if they would mention Linux in even a quarter of their advertising and posters, they would [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle B</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/03/27/the-var-guys-next-pc-linux-inside/comment-page-1/#comment-96336</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 20:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please donate your old boxes to a church-group or some needy student in these hard times!  To comply with the law, and with Microsoft&#039;s leasing policy, you can now replace Microsoft OS with the free (download from the net) Ubuntu OS, which can be set to erase the hard drive of all traces of the   “illegal to give away ”  Microsoft system and your private information, before donation! Now, explain to your lucky recipient that all the manuals they will ever need are available for free on the internet! Just ask for them in Google!  OpenOffice, which is installed already is plenty adequate for homework assignments  and with a little exploring, everything else can work well too!  Happy computing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please donate your old boxes to a church-group or some needy student in these hard times!  To comply with the law, and with Microsoft&#8217;s leasing policy, you can now replace Microsoft OS with the free (download from the net) Ubuntu OS, which can be set to erase the hard drive of all traces of the   “illegal to give away ”  Microsoft system and your private information, before donation! Now, explain to your lucky recipient that all the manuals they will ever need are available for free on the internet! Just ask for them in Google!  OpenOffice, which is installed already is plenty adequate for homework assignments  and with a little exploring, everything else can work well too!  Happy computing!</p>
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		<title>By: The VAR Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/03/27/the-var-guys-next-pc-linux-inside/comment-page-1/#comment-62068</link>
		<dc:creator>The VAR Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ganesh999, you have an interesting take on the situation. Perhaps The VAR Guy should slightly change his advice. 

Instead of &quot;Leading&quot; with Linux in product marketing messages, consumer product makers should offer information about the product&#039;s value. 

Leading with info about Linux won&#039;t educate a consumer. It will confuse them. Describe why the device will help the consumer, and then casually mention Linux somewhere in the descriptor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ganesh999, you have an interesting take on the situation. Perhaps The VAR Guy should slightly change his advice. </p>
<p>Instead of &#8220;Leading&#8221; with Linux in product marketing messages, consumer product makers should offer information about the product&#8217;s value. </p>
<p>Leading with info about Linux won&#8217;t educate a consumer. It will confuse them. Describe why the device will help the consumer, and then casually mention Linux somewhere in the descriptor.</p>
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		<title>By: Ganesh999</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/03/27/the-var-guys-next-pc-linux-inside/comment-page-1/#comment-62066</link>
		<dc:creator>Ganesh999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 13:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with the author; this strategy is extremely dangerous.

In a competitive market, companies maintain &amp; gain market share by brand differentiation.  In competition it is vital that the brand image be preserved.

As Mr Lovasco noted, if users aren&#039;t told that the budget device they&#039;re buying won&#039;t run any of the packaged software &amp; games on sale even at the same retailer, they will soon perceive Linux as something &quot;cheap &amp; nasty&quot;.  

Imagine the bad press when a hard-up family scrapes together just enough for an Eee for their child&#039;s education, only to find that the &quot;100 great arcade games&quot; CD doting grandma buys for said child&#039;s birthday just won&#039;t work.  Yes, Think Of The Children.

Put simply, what The Var Guy is proposing will tarnish the Eee&#039;s brand, and probably all of Linux by extension.  Word-of-mouth and viral marketing works both ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with the author; this strategy is extremely dangerous.</p>
<p>In a competitive market, companies maintain &amp; gain market share by brand differentiation.  In competition it is vital that the brand image be preserved.</p>
<p>As Mr Lovasco noted, if users aren&#8217;t told that the budget device they&#8217;re buying won&#8217;t run any of the packaged software &amp; games on sale even at the same retailer, they will soon perceive Linux as something &#8220;cheap &amp; nasty&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Imagine the bad press when a hard-up family scrapes together just enough for an Eee for their child&#8217;s education, only to find that the &#8220;100 great arcade games&#8221; CD doting grandma buys for said child&#8217;s birthday just won&#8217;t work.  Yes, Think Of The Children.</p>
<p>Put simply, what The Var Guy is proposing will tarnish the Eee&#8217;s brand, and probably all of Linux by extension.  Word-of-mouth and viral marketing works both ways.</p>
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		<title>By: The VAR Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/03/27/the-var-guys-next-pc-linux-inside/comment-page-1/#comment-62040</link>
		<dc:creator>The VAR Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Herman, is it really a PDA, though? Seems like more of a super-mobile computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Herman, is it really a PDA, though? Seems like more of a super-mobile computer.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Lovasco</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/03/27/the-var-guys-next-pc-linux-inside/comment-page-1/#comment-62039</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Lovasco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the biggest problem of not mentioning GNU/Linux is that customers will automatically assume that they can run their existing Windows-only programs.  While it is generally easy for someone in the know to recommend an alternative application for them, that conversation still needs to happen at the time of sale.  Otherwise, only those who are Free Software advocates will buy (and keep) the machines.

That&#039;s probably the main reason why Wal-Mart&#039;s multiple attempts to sell low cost Linux-based systems have failed.  The average retail customer doesn&#039;t know anything about their OS, and so will never ask &quot;will this run X program.&quot;  Since Wal-Mart doesn&#039;t really have a dedicated sales staff for computers, no one volunteers this info, and so the customer buys it not knowing...and then brings it back.

I think the best &quot;Linux marketing tip&quot; is simply educating the consumer -- but in ways that won&#039;t scare them away...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the biggest problem of not mentioning GNU/Linux is that customers will automatically assume that they can run their existing Windows-only programs.  While it is generally easy for someone in the know to recommend an alternative application for them, that conversation still needs to happen at the time of sale.  Otherwise, only those who are Free Software advocates will buy (and keep) the machines.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s probably the main reason why Wal-Mart&#8217;s multiple attempts to sell low cost Linux-based systems have failed.  The average retail customer doesn&#8217;t know anything about their OS, and so will never ask &#8220;will this run X program.&#8221;  Since Wal-Mart doesn&#8217;t really have a dedicated sales staff for computers, no one volunteers this info, and so the customer buys it not knowing&#8230;and then brings it back.</p>
<p>I think the best &#8220;Linux marketing tip&#8221; is simply educating the consumer &#8212; but in ways that won&#8217;t scare them away&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Herman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tell people that it is a fantastic PDA.  It will never break and it is almost impossible to change anything and that is why it won&#039;t break.  If you want to use it like a normal laptop, then I can re-install it for you, but first try it as is and see if you like it.  So far, nobody asked me to re-install it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tell people that it is a fantastic PDA.  It will never break and it is almost impossible to change anything and that is why it won&#8217;t break.  If you want to use it like a normal laptop, then I can re-install it for you, but first try it as is and see if you like it.  So far, nobody asked me to re-install it.</p>
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		<title>By: The VAR Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>The VAR Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr No: The VAR Guy says yes to your video. Very, very cool. Thanks for the submission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr No: The VAR Guy says yes to your video. Very, very cool. Thanks for the submission.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr No</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr No</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Install a Compiz 3D desktop on your eee and people go aaa in awe!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biRzKj3XxCY

Ooh! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Install a Compiz 3D desktop on your eee and people go aaa in awe!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biRzKj3XxCY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biRzKj3XxCY</a></p>
<p>Ooh! <img src='http://www.thevarguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stomfi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stomfi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember back in the last century that NCR took a similar position when selling their UNIX boxes. They were sold on hardware, communication, interoperability, management ease and software features and were a lot cheaper than an IBM solution and another could be added as needs grew.


They sold a lot of them, especially to bank branches, as like Linux can talk to a Windows database, they could talk to an IBM one.


The ASUS EEE software talks to cloud computing portals, especially those of Microsoft&#039;s main competitor. I have their distro running on an old P3  256MB laptop with a wireless modem. It is quite adequate, except when my pre-teen grandchildren fight over whose turn it is.

This of course is the ASUS EEE market. Pre-teens and teenagers, who are used to communicating on a mobile phone, and want something a bit bigger they can pop into their small backpack, and watch video clips, and play music, and chat without straining their thumbs, and play online games or wireless network with each other, and maybe use Google docs to put together a school assignment.

Us old last century Linux geeks still have PS3&#039;s to play with if we really want o show the teens what&#039;s what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember back in the last century that NCR took a similar position when selling their UNIX boxes. They were sold on hardware, communication, interoperability, management ease and software features and were a lot cheaper than an IBM solution and another could be added as needs grew.</p>
<p>They sold a lot of them, especially to bank branches, as like Linux can talk to a Windows database, they could talk to an IBM one.</p>
<p>The ASUS EEE software talks to cloud computing portals, especially those of Microsoft&#8217;s main competitor. I have their distro running on an old P3  256MB laptop with a wireless modem. It is quite adequate, except when my pre-teen grandchildren fight over whose turn it is.</p>
<p>This of course is the ASUS EEE market. Pre-teens and teenagers, who are used to communicating on a mobile phone, and want something a bit bigger they can pop into their small backpack, and watch video clips, and play music, and chat without straining their thumbs, and play online games or wireless network with each other, and maybe use Google docs to put together a school assignment.</p>
<p>Us old last century Linux geeks still have PS3&#8217;s to play with if we really want o show the teens what&#8217;s what.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 03:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe you were right in your first assumption. The &quot;average user&quot; doesn&#039;t know ANYTHING about ANY OS. They know familiar icons and the click. If you had a Word icon that opened writer they would probably use it and only wonder why the interface looks a little different today. 

I believe we the geeks actually do over think the whole user experience thing. You have many users that would be completely lost if you have them Windows with all the desktop icons rearranged or the task bar at the top instead of the bottom. If you just let the users hop on and let them learn the icons most times they&#039;ll be fine. For documents you may need to tell them about formats so that they can share with others but thats about it. The only people complaining about differences in Linux are the wannabe geeks that think they know something but are still just memorizing Windows icons. They are the ones that complain about installations because they don&#039;t know about deb files etc. etc. The average user from what I have observed would be fine. They have to learn Vista so why not Linux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe you were right in your first assumption. The &#8220;average user&#8221; doesn&#8217;t know ANYTHING about ANY OS. They know familiar icons and the click. If you had a Word icon that opened writer they would probably use it and only wonder why the interface looks a little different today. </p>
<p>I believe we the geeks actually do over think the whole user experience thing. You have many users that would be completely lost if you have them Windows with all the desktop icons rearranged or the task bar at the top instead of the bottom. If you just let the users hop on and let them learn the icons most times they&#8217;ll be fine. For documents you may need to tell them about formats so that they can share with others but thats about it. The only people complaining about differences in Linux are the wannabe geeks that think they know something but are still just memorizing Windows icons. They are the ones that complain about installations because they don&#8217;t know about deb files etc. etc. The average user from what I have observed would be fine. They have to learn Vista so why not Linux.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Anaya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis Anaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi:

My wife saw it on the costco e-mail she receives and the only thing appealed to her was the fact that it was pink.  

My gut feeling is that people may not equate the Eee as a real laptop, but to some &quot;other kind&quot; of electronic device; like the iPod.  Think about purchasing a leapfrog kiddie laptop, they would not think that it is a microprocessor running a specialized eeprom programming; because the educational games are &quot;enough for children&quot;.

The same kind of psychology might apply to the Eee. 

Just a thought...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi:</p>
<p>My wife saw it on the costco e-mail she receives and the only thing appealed to her was the fact that it was pink.  </p>
<p>My gut feeling is that people may not equate the Eee as a real laptop, but to some &#8220;other kind&#8221; of electronic device; like the iPod.  Think about purchasing a leapfrog kiddie laptop, they would not think that it is a microprocessor running a specialized eeprom programming; because the educational games are &#8220;enough for children&#8221;.</p>
<p>The same kind of psychology might apply to the Eee. </p>
<p>Just a thought&#8230;</p>
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