Comments on: Dell: No Plans for Ubuntu Linux Servers

By: Lettre Hebdomadaire Ubuntu n° 86 du 6 au 12 avril 2008. « Lettre Hebdomadaire Ubuntu

Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:58:58 +0000

[...] Dell : pas de projet de serveurs Ubuntu – Dell va sans doute fournir des machines équipées d’Ubuntu 8.04 d’ici cet été, mais n’a pas l’intention de proposer pour le moment des serveurs sous Ubuntu. [...]

By: Ubuntu Look » Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter #86

Ubuntu Look » Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter #86 — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:17:26 +0000

[...] * Dell: No Plans for Ubuntu Linux Servers – Canonical has plenty of momentum on the desktop, but as Canonical gears up for a server push, one key Ubuntu partner plans to sit on the sidelines. Dell has no plans to ship Ubuntu on its servers according to a Dell source. Dell does plan to support Ubuntu 8.04 (code-named Hardy Heron) on selected desktops this spring or summer. It’s hard to blame Dell for taking a “wait and see” approach on the Ubuntu server. After all, Red Hat and Novell are both firmly entrenched in the Linux server market. For Ubuntu to succeed on the server, it will need a critical mass of integrators, consultants and software developers willing to sell, service and support Ubuntu-centric systems. http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/10/dell-no-plans-for-ubuntu-linux-servers/ [...]

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By: Mike

Mike — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 05:59:32 +0000

Using ubuntu on server would be insane. I would not take Dell seriously if they would ship Ubuntu on their servers. Ubuntu is buggy as hell. Who would use distro like that on server, or on business desktop? If someone hacks to the server he can make big damage and if your business depends on that server, then you don’t want that to happen.

I really would like to hear from Canonical if they are ready to take responsibility if someone hacks to server using security hole which is in ubuntu because Ubuntu packages are development versios which are not tested well. Canonical knows that their distro is based on development version of Debian, and still they are marketing ubuntu as a reliable and tested server OS. They are not telling their customers that most of the ubuntu packages are recompiled directly from Debian unstable which is not even meant to be used by end users. Is Canonical going to pay the possible damages for those whose server is hacked? i think not, so it’s server maintainers responsibility to choose distro which is well tested, and Ubuntu sure is not.

I have to say I would not use ubuntu on business desktop workstations either. Ubuntu is newbie home user’s distro, not any professional business distro which can be trusted and which works reliably.

If you want reliability on server or on destop, and if you like Debian style system, then use Debian stable release, which is wery well tested. Current Debian stable release is now one year old and next version will most likely be released next september or before the end of the year 2008.

By: Fulko Hew

Fulko Hew — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:08:00 +0000

Dell does???… DID… sell RedHat based servers (I bought some!). I don’t know if the still do. If they do still sell those, they really wouldn’t need to also sell Ubuntu based boxes too. …not really.

By: Joe Panettieri

Joe Panettieri — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:49:13 +0000

remi: I think it does matter whether Dell gives its blessing (or not) to Ubuntu on the server. It would be a huge vote of confidence to customers who would otherwise choose Windows Server, Red Hat or NOVL.

By: remi

remi — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:36:27 +0000

You can get OSes pre-installed on servers … ? I’m running abunchof Ubuntu Server installations on Dell servers …

So long as Dell ships its servers with some kindof linux support (or they bear it in mind when choosing components), does this really matter?

By: Ubuntu Look » Dell: No Plans for Ubuntu Linux Servers

Ubuntu Look » Dell: No Plans for Ubuntu Linux Servers — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:26:27 +0000

[...] First, a little history lesson. Dell in mid-2007 began pre-loading Ubuntu on selected desktops and notebooks. (Yes, The VAR Guy now has one.) Read more at The VAR Guy. [...]

By: Sporkman

Sporkman — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:57:30 +0000

Ubuntu server seems pretty stable & solid to me – I run my low powered but busy server on it, with no problems…

By: Joe Panettieri

Joe Panettieri — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:39:28 +0000

Buzz (#6): I disagree. Dell introduced Ubuntu desktops the year Vista shipped. That was a GUTSY move. And Dell has aggressively promoted NOVL and RHT linux, despite the ongoing relationships with Intel and MSFT.

By: Joe Panettieri

Joe Panettieri — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:35:05 +0000

Chris: Your facts don’t seem like facts.

Fact 1) Sun’s CEO is transforming the company through open source.

Fact 2) You are correct. Ubuntu server is unproven. But Canonical has been prepping a server software initiative. So it IS important to say who’s onboard (Sun) and who isn’t (Dell) so far.

By: Chris Cox

Chris Cox — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:15:15 +0000

Fact 1: Sun will eat you alive and has NO interest in supporting Linux.

Fact 2: Ubuntu Server is UNPROVEN. It’s difficult enough to get companies to commit to Red Hat or Novell. Companies ARE NOT looking at Ubuntu, the only reason Sun looks at them is for their OWN agenda (which will be Solaris and NOT Ubuntu).

So… wither Ubuntu Server? No. Of course not. This post was just VERY premature. Eventually I think we will see Ubuntu Servers and most likely, Dell will be one of the players in that. That is… IF and only IF, Ubuntu on the Server proves to be viable (depends on Canonical’s ability to deliver corporate, very intimate and personal, support to customers).

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