Comments on: The Biggest Windows XP Myth of All http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/ Channel News, Reseller News and Channel Partner Programs Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:00:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: daz http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/comment-page-1/#comment-80652 daz Sun, 28 Sep 2008 11:32:57 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/#comment-80652 As computers are progressing we should be able to do more with less and vista is asking for more and giving us less Xp is just the best of the bad bunch and linux I feel is the right way to go if it is good enough for the chaps at google it must be good so for now I will start helping people move back to xp from vista and then xp and linux and then dump xp all together vista is rubbish. you need at least 1gig ram just to get started.How is that moving forward to truly move forward we should be able to do more with less gigs not do more with more gigs that is really just standing still. And with visa going backwards.some times we get to a point where every thing gets over complicated. and then you have to start from fresh. As computers are progressing we should be able to do more with less and vista is asking for more and giving us less Xp is just the best of the bad bunch and linux I feel is the right way to go if it is good enough for the chaps at google it must be good so for now I will start helping people move back to xp from vista and then xp and linux and then dump xp all together vista is rubbish. you need at least 1gig ram just to get started.How is that moving forward to truly move forward we should be able to do more with less gigs not do more with more gigs that is really just standing still. And with visa going backwards.some times we get to a point where every thing gets over complicated. and then you have to start from fresh.

]]> By: The VAR Guy http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/comment-page-1/#comment-78712 The VAR Guy Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:46:58 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/#comment-78712 @Marty: The VAR Guy hopes your mate doesn't read that last line... @Marty: The VAR Guy hopes your mate doesn’t read that last line…

]]> By: Marty http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/comment-page-1/#comment-78698 Marty Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:54:11 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/#comment-78698 Add me to the list of XP lovers.....and to the list of Vista haters. I have always looked forward to Microsoft's newest release....and I started my computer career with Windows Dos 3.1. That should give you a clue as to my age. So I eagerly anticpated a great experience with Vista. Yep, I hate it. I really wanted to like it. I tried to like it. I used it, and was determined to like it. Didn't work. I hate it....will probably always hate it, and I am back using XP. Yep, I love XP. I'd give up sex before I'd give up XP. Add me to the list of XP lovers…..and to the list of Vista haters. I have always looked forward to Microsoft’s newest release….and I started my computer career with Windows Dos 3.1. That should give you a clue as to my age. So I eagerly anticpated a great experience with Vista. Yep, I hate it. I really wanted to like it. I tried to like it. I used it, and was determined to like it. Didn’t work. I hate it….will probably always hate it, and I am back using XP. Yep, I love XP. I’d give up sex before I’d give up XP.

]]> By: Rod http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/comment-page-1/#comment-69173 Rod Sat, 31 May 2008 18:54:34 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/#comment-69173 I love XP and always have, except in the beginning but that can be attributed to it's newness. I have 3 PC's all running it, 2 of which are XP home and 1 XP pro. Face it, there are users who love it, they just aren't as vocal as those with less popular operating systems. I also have some experience with Linux and now have Ubuntu running on a laptop and it doesn't cut it as an average home users OS. If it works then it's usable but if something goes wrong, which it can and will, then it's beyond most people's expertise to fix it. Ubuntu (gutsy, I haven't tried hardy yet) can be very unstable and has crashed regularly on a few PC's I've played with. I've also played with Vista, not enough to comment but it made me not want to let go of my XP just yet. I can't defend Vista, but XP has been a trooper for me. I love XP and always have, except in the beginning but that can be attributed to it’s newness. I have 3 PC’s all running it, 2 of which are XP home and 1 XP pro. Face it, there are users who love it, they just aren’t as vocal as those with less popular operating systems.
I also have some experience with Linux and now have Ubuntu running on a laptop and it doesn’t cut it as an average home users OS. If it works then it’s usable but if something goes wrong, which it can and will, then it’s beyond most people’s expertise to fix it. Ubuntu (gutsy, I haven’t tried hardy yet) can be very unstable and has crashed regularly on a few PC’s I’ve played with.
I’ve also played with Vista, not enough to comment but it made me not want to let go of my XP just yet. I can’t defend Vista, but XP has been a trooper for me.

]]> By: Shannon VanWagner http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/comment-page-1/#comment-64622 Shannon VanWagner Tue, 06 May 2008 17:17:35 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/#comment-64622 People prefer XP over Vista for a lot of reasons, as an IT Professional, here are some of the reasons I've heard people say they want XP over Vista: 1.) Performance(as in speed) in XP is perceived to be better and certainly requires less-beefy hardware. This is my #1 issue with Vista personally, a new Operating System should be TWICE AS FAST as the previous one in my opinion. 2.) System hangs and crashes - users have reported their Vista machines "locking up" or "hanging" when trying to perform normal tasks. 3.) GUI has RADICALLY changed, and the USER CANNOT change it back to a similar state as the previous version. This makes for a lot of User time being wasted just to get used to the new interface, and for what? So it can change again in the next release? This is ONE of the biggest problems I have with the way Microsoft does software.. On a whim, they RADICALLY change the GUI in their products and then take away MY CHOICE to switch it back or at least fully customize it myself. Linux lets the user customize their environment to their heart's desire, and there are even entirely different desktop packages that could be chosen for user preference. LINUX IS ABOUT CHOICE. 3.) Driver headaches, especially with older printers. If users can't print, the value of Vista is practically nill. 4.) Software headaches, although the problems are diminishing, there are still a lot of applications(even games) out there that don't work with Vista. 5.) There is no real Killer-App in Vista that is worth the headache to switch from XP. 6.)(this one is sort of my own) Cost, why pay $300 dollars for Vista when you can download Ubuntu Linux(distrowatch.com), install Beryl for fancy GUI effects, and a universe of free software to do everything imaginable, All without a single "Windows Genuine Disadvantage" prompt! You can also copy any Linux and/or open source program onto a CD and have your kids share it with all their friends (and they won't be breaking the law! Note: I suggest you explain the difference between proprietary software and Open Source to your kids so they aren't breaking the law unknowingly). People prefer XP over Vista for a lot of reasons, as an IT Professional, here are some of the reasons I’ve heard people say they want XP over Vista:

1.) Performance(as in speed) in XP is perceived to be better and certainly requires less-beefy hardware. This is my #1 issue with Vista personally, a new Operating System should be TWICE AS FAST as the previous one in my opinion.

2.) System hangs and crashes – users have reported their Vista machines “locking up” or “hanging” when trying to perform normal tasks.

3.) GUI has RADICALLY changed, and the USER CANNOT change it back to a similar state as the previous version. This makes for a lot of User time being wasted just to get used to the new interface, and for what? So it can change again in the next release? This is ONE of the biggest problems I have with the way Microsoft does software.. On a whim, they RADICALLY change the GUI in their products and then take away MY CHOICE to switch it back or at least fully customize it myself. Linux lets the user customize their environment to their heart’s desire, and there are even entirely different desktop packages that could be chosen for user preference. LINUX IS ABOUT CHOICE.

3.) Driver headaches, especially with older printers. If users can’t print, the value of Vista is practically nill.

4.) Software headaches, although the problems are diminishing, there are still a lot of applications(even games) out there that don’t work with Vista.

5.) There is no real Killer-App in Vista that is worth the headache to switch from XP.

6.)(this one is sort of my own) Cost, why pay $300 dollars for Vista when you can download Ubuntu Linux(distrowatch.com), install Beryl for fancy GUI effects, and a universe of free software to do everything imaginable, All without a single “Windows Genuine Disadvantage” prompt! You can also copy any Linux and/or open source program onto a CD and have your kids share it with all their friends (and they won’t be breaking the law! Note: I suggest you explain the difference between proprietary software and Open Source to your kids so they aren’t breaking the law unknowingly).

]]> By: Jeff Dickey http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/comment-page-1/#comment-64618 Jeff Dickey Tue, 06 May 2008 15:10:46 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/#comment-64618 For all the times that Microsoft have blustered about "we're betting the company on ", Windows 7 truly is shaping up to be a "blow-THIS-one-and-we-die" epic of a proportion rarely seen since the demise of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_Computer_Corporation" rel="nofollow">Osborne</a> or WordPerfect. (WordPerfect being the better analogy, on reflection, since they borked numerous opportunities to counter [ironically]Microsoft.) If Windows 7 is more reminiscent of Vista and ME than 95 or 3.1, then look for MSFT in the pink sheets shortly thereafter. People are waking up to the idea that replacing every PC you own with one that's twice as powerful to do the same job half as well isn't very good value for money. Back in those long-ago days before it achieved true world domineering, it was on the 'value' side of that particular comparison. How times have changed. 'Microsoft quality' has come to displace 'military intelligence' and 'bureaucratic efficiency' as an oxymoronic cultural touchstone known to millions. The T-rex has already been shot, apparently with a 155mm shell to the head... now our task becomes a) making sure the carcass doesn't fall on top of us, and b) finding another Big Thing to carry our business along. For all the times that Microsoft have blustered about “we’re betting the company on “, Windows 7 truly is shaping up to be a “blow-THIS-one-and-we-die” epic of a proportion rarely seen since the demise of Osborne or WordPerfect. (WordPerfect being the better analogy, on reflection, since they borked numerous opportunities to counter [ironically]Microsoft.) If Windows 7 is more reminiscent of Vista and ME than 95 or 3.1, then look for MSFT in the pink sheets shortly thereafter. People are waking up to the idea that replacing every PC you own with one that’s twice as powerful to do the same job half as well isn’t very good value for money. Back in those long-ago days before it achieved true world domineering, it was on the ‘value’ side of that particular comparison. How times have changed. ‘Microsoft quality’ has come to displace ‘military intelligence’ and ‘bureaucratic efficiency’ as an oxymoronic cultural touchstone known to millions.

The T-rex has already been shot, apparently with a 155mm shell to the head… now our task becomes a) making sure the carcass doesn’t fall on top of us, and b) finding another Big Thing to carry our business along.

]]> By: The VAR Guy http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/comment-page-1/#comment-64516 The VAR Guy Mon, 05 May 2008 17:27:35 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/#comment-64516 Eric: You are correct in that MSFT will rework Windows into components. If you recall, the original Windows NT had a pretty tight kernel. And then Microsoft kept layering on services and, well, we're stuck with Vista now. But they will get back to the kernel and software components. Eric: You are correct in that MSFT will rework Windows into components. If you recall, the original Windows NT had a pretty tight kernel. And then Microsoft kept layering on services and, well, we’re stuck with Vista now. But they will get back to the kernel and software components.

]]> By: Eric http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/comment-page-1/#comment-64514 Eric Mon, 05 May 2008 17:04:13 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/#comment-64514 Actaully, I bet MS takes their Windows core and breaks it out from the rest, and then allows one to add on to this core, kind of like Linux, but still using their core kernel, etc. Allows for modularity/headless servers/low-power computing/etc. MS has seen their sanfu in regards to Vista. I am telling you, from a productivity standpoint, XP can be made to rock. But you need to know what tools are available to get you their. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy Linux as well, but I am a fanboy of none. Actaully, I bet MS takes their Windows core and breaks it out from the rest, and then allows one to add on to this core, kind of like Linux, but still using their core kernel, etc. Allows for modularity/headless servers/low-power computing/etc. MS has seen their sanfu in regards to Vista. I am telling you, from a productivity standpoint, XP can be made to rock. But you need to know what tools are available to get you their. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy Linux as well, but I am a fanboy of none.

]]> By: Hanover http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/comment-page-1/#comment-64511 Hanover Mon, 05 May 2008 16:46:32 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/#comment-64511 It's not "Love of XP" nor is it so much "Love of productivity"... It's loathing of Vista. Back in 1996 Apple was smart enough to realize that it's new "Copland" Operating System was not up to snuff and had enough common sense to abort it's development/release and seek out the basis of a new direction for a System 7 replacement. Namely NeXT and Steve Jobs. Ballmer, Gates & Co. pressed on ahead and the result has been what we've seen. The bad news for Ballmer & Co. is that there aren't any apparent NeXT-ean easy buys out there and they are going to have to divine a way out of the corner they are in on their own. If Vista is any indication, it will be a very bumpy ride for Window's users. The smart money is on Uncle Fester not being up to the task at hand. -- Hano It’s not “Love of XP” nor is it so much “Love of productivity”… It’s loathing of Vista.

Back in 1996 Apple was smart enough to realize that it’s new “Copland” Operating System was not up to snuff and had enough common sense to abort it’s development/release and seek out the basis of a new direction for a System 7 replacement. Namely NeXT and Steve Jobs.

Ballmer, Gates & Co. pressed on ahead and the result has been what we’ve seen.

The bad news for Ballmer & Co. is that there aren’t any apparent NeXT-ean easy buys out there and they are going to have to divine a way out of the corner they are in on their own.

If Vista is any indication, it will be a very bumpy ride for Window’s users.

The smart money is on Uncle Fester not being up to the task at hand.

– Hano

]]> By: Bill http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/comment-page-1/#comment-64284 Bill Fri, 02 May 2008 16:59:35 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/#comment-64284 It’s not for the “love of XP", it's for the “love of productivity". Vista is an enormous leap backward in user productivity. It’s not for the “love of XP”, it’s for the “love of productivity”. Vista is an enormous leap backward in user productivity.

]]> By: Catharina http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/comment-page-1/#comment-64254 Catharina Fri, 02 May 2008 09:25:07 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/#comment-64254 It is indeed a little sad to see people desperately clinging to such an old OS. To overcome their fears, Ubuntu now offers the opportunity to install Ubunbu from within Windows. This can be done with http://wubi-installer.org/ It is indeed a little sad to see people desperately clinging to such an old OS. To overcome their fears, Ubuntu now offers the opportunity to install Ubunbu from within Windows. This can be done with http://wubi-installer.org/

]]> By: The VAR Guy http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/comment-page-1/#comment-64205 The VAR Guy Thu, 01 May 2008 18:55:46 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/04/29/the-biggest-windows-xp-myth-of-all/#comment-64205 Here we go again. Now CRN is reporting that users <a href="http://crn.com/software/207403950?cid=ChannelWebBreakingNews" rel="nofollow">have grown to "love" XP</a>. Really? Isn't it more of a matter of users sticking with the problem they know rather than installing the problem they don't know? Here we go again. Now CRN is reporting that users have grown to “love” XP. Really? Isn’t it more of a matter of users sticking with the problem they know rather than installing the problem they don’t know?

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