Comments on: Five Reasons Red Hat Should Ignore Consumer Linux Desktops http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/05/16/five-reasons-red-hat-should-ignore-consumer-desktops/ Channel News, Reseller News and Channel Partner Programs Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:00:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The VAR Guy http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/05/16/five-reasons-red-hat-should-ignore-consumer-desktops/comment-page-1/#comment-99398 The VAR Guy Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:31:49 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/05/16/five-reasons-red-hat-should-ignore-consumer-desktops/#comment-99398 Manmath: The more The VAR Guy thinks about it, the more he believes you are correct. Red Hat is contributing quite a lot back to the open source desktop, and should be well-positioned if/when the company wants to pursue corporate desktops. But consumer desktops? Not really Red Hat's game... Manmath: The more The VAR Guy thinks about it, the more he believes you are correct. Red Hat is contributing quite a lot back to the open source desktop, and should be well-positioned if/when the company wants to pursue corporate desktops.

But consumer desktops? Not really Red Hat’s game…

]]> By: manmath http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/05/16/five-reasons-red-hat-should-ignore-consumer-desktops/comment-page-1/#comment-99382 manmath Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:20:05 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/05/16/five-reasons-red-hat-should-ignore-consumer-desktops/#comment-99382 Red Hat has made a right decision not to plunge into consumer desktop. Consumer desktop is already cluttered by many players - free and non-free, but none have really made any mark. So, why another fool attempt? Red Hat has made a right decision not to plunge into consumer desktop. Consumer desktop is already cluttered by many players – free and non-free, but none have really made any mark. So, why another fool attempt?

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]]> By: The VAR Guy http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/05/16/five-reasons-red-hat-should-ignore-consumer-desktops/comment-page-1/#comment-67621 The VAR Guy Fri, 23 May 2008 16:37:25 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/05/16/five-reasons-red-hat-should-ignore-consumer-desktops/#comment-67621 Tristan @11: Yes, Ubuntu will *try* to leap to the server, and The VAR Guy believes Ubuntu will gain some traction there. But Ubuntu will need more server application support, more ISVs, more integration partners and more VARs promoting Ubuntu on servers. Remember: It took Windows NT about 4 to 5 years to get even decent momentum on the server following initial launch in 1993... Tristan @11: Yes, Ubuntu will *try* to leap to the server, and The VAR Guy believes Ubuntu will gain some traction there. But Ubuntu will need more server application support, more ISVs, more integration partners and more VARs promoting Ubuntu on servers. Remember: It took Windows NT about 4 to 5 years to get even decent momentum on the server following initial launch in 1993…

]]> By: Tristan Rhodes http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/05/16/five-reasons-red-hat-should-ignore-consumer-desktops/comment-page-1/#comment-67519 Tristan Rhodes Fri, 23 May 2008 03:36:13 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/05/16/five-reasons-red-hat-should-ignore-consumer-desktops/#comment-67519 Var Guy, I have to disagree with your conclusion. I agree that there is no money in desktops. But if everyone starts using another distro on the desktop (Ubuntu), they will start using that distro in their data centers. I have explained this more in a blog post titled, "Win the desktop, and you will win the server". http://useopensource.blogspot.com/2008/02/win-desktop-and-you-will-win-server.html Keep up the great blogging! Tristan Rhodes Var Guy, I have to disagree with your conclusion. I agree that there is no money in desktops. But if everyone starts using another distro on the desktop (Ubuntu), they will start using that distro in their data centers.

I have explained this more in a blog post titled, “Win the desktop, and you will win the server”.

http://useopensource.blogspot.com/2008/02/win-desktop-and-you-will-win-server.html

Keep up the great blogging!

Tristan Rhodes

]]> By: Thomas Cameron http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/05/16/five-reasons-red-hat-should-ignore-consumer-desktops/comment-page-1/#comment-67113 Thomas Cameron Wed, 21 May 2008 14:20:29 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/05/16/five-reasons-red-hat-should-ignore-consumer-desktops/#comment-67113 In the spirit of transparency: I am a Red Hat employee. The thing that no one really seems to understand is that Red Hat already has a desktop OS, and it's really good. I'm writing this from a RHEL 5.1 laptop. I've got Intel sound, Intel wireless, Intel ethernet and Intel accelerated 3D video. It all Just Worked(TM) at install time, no third-party drivers needed. Red Hat Enterprise Linux comes in two flavors - Client and Server. Both have additional functionality which can be added either at or after installation time (clustering, virtualization, etc), but the message here is that there is already a desktop version of RHEL. What Red Hat are not doing is going after Great Aunt Tillie the computer novice or nephew Joey who is the hard corps gamer. For business users, RHEL desktop is a very full featured, stable, highly functional, easy to use and easy to manage distribution. You can get a RHEL Desktop subscription for anywhere from $80 to $339 according to https://www.redhat.com/wapps/store/allProducts.html. For the price of that subscription you are not only getting a great distro, you are also funding the biggest commercial contributor to the Linux kernel, the glibc/gcc toolchain, etc. Pretty much everything Red Hat does is returned to the Linux and F/OSS community. In the spirit of transparency: I am a Red Hat employee.

The thing that no one really seems to understand is that Red Hat already has a desktop OS, and it’s really good. I’m writing this from a RHEL 5.1 laptop. I’ve got Intel sound, Intel wireless, Intel ethernet and Intel accelerated 3D video. It all Just Worked(TM) at install time, no third-party drivers needed.

Red Hat Enterprise Linux comes in two flavors – Client and Server. Both have additional functionality which can be added either at or after installation time (clustering, virtualization, etc), but the message here is that there is already a desktop version of RHEL.

What Red Hat are not doing is going after Great Aunt Tillie the computer novice or nephew Joey who is the hard corps gamer. For business users, RHEL desktop is a very full featured, stable, highly functional, easy to use and easy to manage distribution.

You can get a RHEL Desktop subscription for anywhere from $80 to $339 according to https://www.redhat.com/wapps/store/allProducts.html. For the price of that subscription you are not only getting a great distro, you are also funding the biggest commercial contributor to the Linux kernel, the glibc/gcc toolchain, etc. Pretty much everything Red Hat does is returned to the Linux and F/OSS community.

]]> By: Ross http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/05/16/five-reasons-red-hat-should-ignore-consumer-desktops/comment-page-1/#comment-66857 Ross Tue, 20 May 2008 12:15:13 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/05/16/five-reasons-red-hat-should-ignore-consumer-desktops/#comment-66857 Red Hat isn't wrong for not focusing on the Consumer Linux Market, and neither is anyone else who has decided to focus on Corporate Linux. Consumer support models are much more expensive to build and maintain, and the variety of hardware is much much wider, so many situations will arise where drivers are needed etc. Additionally I would submit reason # 6 Why Red Hat Should Ignore Consumer Desktops is: Their current desktop strategy is similar to Intel's 486SX chips, where RH has taken a fully-functional Server OS and removed the services from it and called it Desktop. Red Hat isn’t wrong for not focusing on the Consumer Linux Market, and neither is anyone else who has decided to focus on Corporate Linux. Consumer support models are much more expensive to build and maintain, and the variety of hardware is much much wider, so many situations will arise where drivers are needed etc.

Additionally I would submit reason # 6 Why Red Hat Should Ignore Consumer Desktops is: Their current desktop strategy is similar to Intel’s 486SX chips, where RH has taken a fully-functional Server OS and removed the services from it and called it Desktop.

]]> By: Ante http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/05/16/five-reasons-red-hat-should-ignore-consumer-desktops/comment-page-1/#comment-66846 Ante Tue, 20 May 2008 10:52:24 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/05/16/five-reasons-red-hat-should-ignore-consumer-desktops/#comment-66846 Ubuntu is still young in mainstream. I'm quite sure it will get stronger in a year or two. It's getting there, faster than RedHat did, but also cause of everything RedHat did until now. Ubuntu is still young in mainstream. I’m quite sure it will get stronger in a year or two. It’s getting there, faster than RedHat did, but also cause of everything RedHat did until now.

]]> By: LockDeltz http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/05/16/five-reasons-red-hat-should-ignore-consumer-desktops/comment-page-1/#comment-66838 LockDeltz Tue, 20 May 2008 09:45:58 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/05/16/five-reasons-red-hat-should-ignore-consumer-desktops/#comment-66838 Why doesn't Red hat follow Mandriva's lead and have an OS thats completely free and open source and another that includes non-free drivers, non-free software, and non-free repositories. I'd be glad to pay $50 for a Red Hat operating system. Red Hat is a multi-million dollar company, their is no excuse for Red Hat not to have a "REAL" (not Fedora) desktop OS for the consumers. Why doesn’t Red hat follow Mandriva’s lead and have an OS thats completely free and open source and another that includes non-free drivers, non-free software, and non-free repositories. I’d be glad to pay $50 for a Red Hat operating system. Red Hat is a multi-million dollar company, their is no excuse for Red Hat not to have a “REAL” (not Fedora) desktop OS for the consumers.

]]> By: nicu http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/05/16/five-reasons-red-hat-should-ignore-consumer-desktops/comment-page-1/#comment-66832 nicu Tue, 20 May 2008 08:58:13 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/05/16/five-reasons-red-hat-should-ignore-consumer-desktops/#comment-66832 @evanx: as consumer desktop is Canonical's entry strategy to reach the server later, then a Red Hat consumer desktop move could preempt a future battle for server market share. They can spend the money now, investing in desktop or wait and spend them later, when forced by competition. @evanx: as consumer desktop is Canonical’s entry strategy to reach the server later, then a Red Hat consumer desktop move could preempt a future battle for server market share.
They can spend the money now, investing in desktop or wait and spend them later, when forced by competition.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/05/16/five-reasons-red-hat-should-ignore-consumer-desktops/comment-page-1/#comment-66786 Anonymous Tue, 20 May 2008 04:36:57 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/05/16/five-reasons-red-hat-should-ignore-consumer-desktops/#comment-66786 My God!! This is truly ridiculous !! Why do I read this things !! My God!! This is truly ridiculous !! Why do I read this things !!

]]> By: Sum Yung Gai http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/05/16/five-reasons-red-hat-should-ignore-consumer-desktops/comment-page-1/#comment-66770 Sum Yung Gai Tue, 20 May 2008 02:19:40 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/05/16/five-reasons-red-hat-should-ignore-consumer-desktops/#comment-66770 Canonical are doing a fine job with Ubuntu. It's meant specifically to be a desktop GNU/Linux distribution. What's wrong with having Ubuntu on the desktop and Red Hat on the server? Besides, if you want Red Hat on the desktop, then go for Fedora or CentOS. --SYG Canonical are doing a fine job with Ubuntu. It’s meant specifically to be a desktop GNU/Linux distribution. What’s wrong with having Ubuntu on the desktop and Red Hat on the server?

Besides, if you want Red Hat on the desktop, then go for Fedora or CentOS.

–SYG

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