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	<title>Comments on: Can Open Source Drive Sustainable Innovation?</title>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/07/09/can-open-source-drive-sustainable-innovation/comment-page-1/#comment-98709</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pardon me.
Where did you get that image of the man with the light bulb?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pardon me.<br />
Where did you get that image of the man with the light bulb?</p>
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		<title>By: pooh</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/07/09/can-open-source-drive-sustainable-innovation/comment-page-1/#comment-74416</link>
		<dc:creator>pooh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 05:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CORRECTION:

&quot;More importantly, once a CLOSED SOURCE company has become the dominant supplier (roughly, a monopoly) on a market segment, it is much easier to maintain both market share and high profit margins...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CORRECTION:</p>
<p>&#8220;More importantly, once a CLOSED SOURCE company has become the dominant supplier (roughly, a monopoly) on a market segment, it is much easier to maintain both market share and high profit margins&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: pooh</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/07/09/can-open-source-drive-sustainable-innovation/comment-page-1/#comment-74415</link>
		<dc:creator>pooh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 05:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Closed source is about maximising profits while open source is about minimising costs. Thus, closed source is a product while open source is a production means. At this level there is no superiority of either paradigm, and it can be argued that some software is more like a product while other is more like a tool and thus stands to benefit more from the open source approach.

From a business point of view it should probably be as difficult to become a major player on a new field using either closed source or open source. However, two things happen. With closed source, the binary application is the product itself, while with open source, the software is merely a tool for/component of the supplied product/service (as is the case with this site). 

More importantly, once a company has become the dominant supplier (roughly, a monopoly) on a market segment, it is much easier to maintain both market share and high profit margins and thus the incentive to innovate diminishes or is even reversed (consider Internet Explorer after Netscape and before Firefox). This is because the inherently temporary technological monopoly it enjoyes as the result of its original innovation becomes a legal monopoly under IP law, while the cost of entering in a competition with an open source-based company is by definition low, as all their technological advances can be reused by anyone else. 

Thus, open source companies find it easier to play catch-up, are more customer friendly, more challenging for their management and staff, but have a much harder time making into the billionaires&#039; club.

When it comes to innovation as such, think what would have happened should the wheel technology or the bread recipe been &quot;closed source&quot;. Or even what if the technology of mirror manufacturing were not &quot;stolen&quot; from the Venice companies (by hiring and smuggling out the engineers) by Louis XIV.

Historically, knowledge - including algorithms - was best developed by sharing advances either freely or through espionage/robbery. While sitting on knowledge has been very useful for some (e.g. mirrors, silk worms, IBM PCs) the eventual spread of these technological advance has proven more beneficial overall and has generated a lot of additional innovation. Actually the spread of knowledge, rather than the mere spread of genes has been the foundation for the quick pace of the human evolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Closed source is about maximising profits while open source is about minimising costs. Thus, closed source is a product while open source is a production means. At this level there is no superiority of either paradigm, and it can be argued that some software is more like a product while other is more like a tool and thus stands to benefit more from the open source approach.</p>
<p>From a business point of view it should probably be as difficult to become a major player on a new field using either closed source or open source. However, two things happen. With closed source, the binary application is the product itself, while with open source, the software is merely a tool for/component of the supplied product/service (as is the case with this site). </p>
<p>More importantly, once a company has become the dominant supplier (roughly, a monopoly) on a market segment, it is much easier to maintain both market share and high profit margins and thus the incentive to innovate diminishes or is even reversed (consider Internet Explorer after Netscape and before Firefox). This is because the inherently temporary technological monopoly it enjoyes as the result of its original innovation becomes a legal monopoly under IP law, while the cost of entering in a competition with an open source-based company is by definition low, as all their technological advances can be reused by anyone else. </p>
<p>Thus, open source companies find it easier to play catch-up, are more customer friendly, more challenging for their management and staff, but have a much harder time making into the billionaires&#8217; club.</p>
<p>When it comes to innovation as such, think what would have happened should the wheel technology or the bread recipe been &#8220;closed source&#8221;. Or even what if the technology of mirror manufacturing were not &#8220;stolen&#8221; from the Venice companies (by hiring and smuggling out the engineers) by Louis XIV.</p>
<p>Historically, knowledge &#8211; including algorithms &#8211; was best developed by sharing advances either freely or through espionage/robbery. While sitting on knowledge has been very useful for some (e.g. mirrors, silk worms, IBM PCs) the eventual spread of these technological advance has proven more beneficial overall and has generated a lot of additional innovation. Actually the spread of knowledge, rather than the mere spread of genes has been the foundation for the quick pace of the human evolution.</p>
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		<title>By: Dox96</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dox96</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 04:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no doubt that the open source method drives innovation, and I completely disagree with badger101101.  Just off the top of my head, the &quot;Live CD&quot;/OS-on-a-stick concept, the plug-in/extension to software concept, the wiki, the OLPC &quot;open mesh&quot; networking concept, etc, etc - these concepts were developed thanks to the open source method.  These concepts, although highly beneficial and successful, are an anathema to the proprietary method and couldn&#039;t have been developed that way at all.  I look forward to the new inventions driven by open source - I&#039;m sure they will be plenty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no doubt that the open source method drives innovation, and I completely disagree with badger101101.  Just off the top of my head, the &#8220;Live CD&#8221;/OS-on-a-stick concept, the plug-in/extension to software concept, the wiki, the OLPC &#8220;open mesh&#8221; networking concept, etc, etc &#8211; these concepts were developed thanks to the open source method.  These concepts, although highly beneficial and successful, are an anathema to the proprietary method and couldn&#8217;t have been developed that way at all.  I look forward to the new inventions driven by open source &#8211; I&#8217;m sure they will be plenty.</p>
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		<title>By: badger101101</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/07/09/can-open-source-drive-sustainable-innovation/comment-page-1/#comment-74396</link>
		<dc:creator>badger101101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 02:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that open source will remain innovative as long as there is something better out there.  As soon as the GPL dominates everything, innovation will come to a screeching halt.  As passionate as Richard Stallman may be, open source software *needs* proprietary software to motivate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that open source will remain innovative as long as there is something better out there.  As soon as the GPL dominates everything, innovation will come to a screeching halt.  As passionate as Richard Stallman may be, open source software *needs* proprietary software to motivate it.</p>
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		<title>By: oiaohm</title>
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		<dc:creator>oiaohm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 00:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok Completely missed it most of open source innovation does not come in the innovation stage but maintaining.   Its call the Itch and scratching it development model.  From time to time a maintainer will find them a piece short not acquirable from anyone else.  So maintainer adds that feature if it goes back to open source it will travel around for a while until another maintainer sees it and says it can expanded improved and so on fix there Itch so the process goes into a never ending loop.

So innovation is not something people in Open source go looking for it normally happens thew a set of small changes until one day it is like wow that great way better than anything else and so innovate someone had to be really innovative to create that.   Sorry no.  Could have been the collective mind of millions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok Completely missed it most of open source innovation does not come in the innovation stage but maintaining.   Its call the Itch and scratching it development model.  From time to time a maintainer will find them a piece short not acquirable from anyone else.  So maintainer adds that feature if it goes back to open source it will travel around for a while until another maintainer sees it and says it can expanded improved and so on fix there Itch so the process goes into a never ending loop.</p>
<p>So innovation is not something people in Open source go looking for it normally happens thew a set of small changes until one day it is like wow that great way better than anything else and so innovate someone had to be really innovative to create that.   Sorry no.  Could have been the collective mind of millions.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And maybe Mark means that he is going to polish it for those customers. He can even see the day, maybe it is on his schedule.

I&#039;m happy that he can see it. I just hope it is not a mirage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And maybe Mark means that he is going to polish it for those customers. He can even see the day, maybe it is on his schedule.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m happy that he can see it. I just hope it is not a mirage.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dennis: Your point leads to another interesting topic. People often say Microsoft will never, ever port Office to Linux. Generally speaking, I agree. But isn&#039;t Office for Mac OS essentially a Linux/Unix suite?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dennis: Your point leads to another interesting topic. People often say Microsoft will never, ever port Office to Linux. Generally speaking, I agree. But isn&#8217;t Office for Mac OS essentially a Linux/Unix suite?</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm... speaking of Mac.  MacOS is now based on FreeBSD, which is also an open-source licensed product, albeit not a (IMHO) very good one, as it allows folks like Apple and Microsoft to leech off others&#039; innovations while not returning anything to the project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm&#8230; speaking of Mac.  MacOS is now based on FreeBSD, which is also an open-source licensed product, albeit not a (IMHO) very good one, as it allows folks like Apple and Microsoft to leech off others&#8217; innovations while not returning anything to the project.</p>
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		<title>By: The VAR Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/07/09/can-open-source-drive-sustainable-innovation/comment-page-1/#comment-74340</link>
		<dc:creator>The VAR Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Marcos: The good news - yes, individuals can polish Linux on their own. The bad news - most consumers don&#039;t want to polish their operating systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Marcos: The good news &#8211; yes, individuals can polish Linux on their own. The bad news &#8211; most consumers don&#8217;t want to polish their operating systems.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, can you see the day when Linux will be more polished than MacOS X?

It is easy, just polish your Linux now. It is easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, can you see the day when Linux will be more polished than MacOS X?</p>
<p>It is easy, just polish your Linux now. It is easy.</p>
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		<title>By: The VAR Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>The VAR Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tracyanne: Linux is intuitive, but MacOS feels more polished. The VAR Guy runs both every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tracyanne: Linux is intuitive, but MacOS feels more polished. The VAR Guy runs both every day.</p>
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