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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft-Free PC: Where&#039;s Sun?</title>
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		<title>By: sexy sofie</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/08/11/microsoft-free-pc-wheres-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-115859</link>
		<dc:creator>sexy sofie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where&#039;s mandriva?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where&#8217;s mandriva?</p>
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		<title>By: aikiwolfie</title>
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		<dc:creator>aikiwolfie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Suns apparent absence is that big a deal. Where are Novell in all of this? Sun Microsystems and Novell have both had long standing love/hate relationships with Microsoft. Is it really that surprising Sun aren&#039;t involved?

We could equally ask where a few of the other big(ish) names in Linux are? Where are the likes of Gentoo and Xandros? Where&#039;s the company that does Linos for Elonex? Where are Debian for that matter? Ubuntu is built from a Debian base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Suns apparent absence is that big a deal. Where are Novell in all of this? Sun Microsystems and Novell have both had long standing love/hate relationships with Microsoft. Is it really that surprising Sun aren&#8217;t involved?</p>
<p>We could equally ask where a few of the other big(ish) names in Linux are? Where are the likes of Gentoo and Xandros? Where&#8217;s the company that does Linos for Elonex? Where are Debian for that matter? Ubuntu is built from a Debian base.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Root</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Root</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahem, Mr VarGuy,
Do you really, ... , REALLY asking the one company which always and from the beginning made M$ free workstations and servers why they did not chime in into this marketing &quot;bull****&quot;?

Do you know how M$ hostile SUN in their history was?
Just in the last several years - beginning with the time where SUN lost much money after the internet bubble - they got more M$ friendly.
But the jokes of McNealy about M$, Bill and Steve are things Unix &quot;fanboys&quot; tell even today.

Yes, IBM had also always a big department of UNIX and even a more disconnected world from PCs - mainframes - but they were long time also big partners of M$.
IBM always danced at many weddings.
SUN did not.

And even today where SUN even delivers the one or the other workstation with Windows they are M$ hostile by pushing Open Source at many levels.
Which company made a real UNIX Open Source?
Which company made the one Office Suite Open Source which gets on every live CD of the 733t k1Ds ?
Which company made THE language and platform and framework used in the businesses Open Source?

You know, SUN doesn&#039;t need such marketing things what IBM made with RedHat and Canonical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahem, Mr VarGuy,<br />
Do you really, &#8230; , REALLY asking the one company which always and from the beginning made M$ free workstations and servers why they did not chime in into this marketing &#8220;bull****&#8221;?</p>
<p>Do you know how M$ hostile SUN in their history was?<br />
Just in the last several years &#8211; beginning with the time where SUN lost much money after the internet bubble &#8211; they got more M$ friendly.<br />
But the jokes of McNealy about M$, Bill and Steve are things Unix &#8220;fanboys&#8221; tell even today.</p>
<p>Yes, IBM had also always a big department of UNIX and even a more disconnected world from PCs &#8211; mainframes &#8211; but they were long time also big partners of M$.<br />
IBM always danced at many weddings.<br />
SUN did not.</p>
<p>And even today where SUN even delivers the one or the other workstation with Windows they are M$ hostile by pushing Open Source at many levels.<br />
Which company made a real UNIX Open Source?<br />
Which company made the one Office Suite Open Source which gets on every live CD of the 733t k1Ds ?<br />
Which company made THE language and platform and framework used in the businesses Open Source?</p>
<p>You know, SUN doesn&#8217;t need such marketing things what IBM made with RedHat and Canonical.</p>
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		<title>By: The Microsoft-Free PC: So, Where&#8217;s Sun? &#124; Server Tales - Ungureanu Ioan</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Microsoft-Free PC: So, Where&#8217;s Sun? &#124; Server Tales - Ungureanu Ioan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] PC initiative. So, has Sun squandered its early lead as an alternative to Microsoft Office? Works With U  looks for answers. Sun Microsystems, the original advocate of OpenOffice, missed the boat when IBM, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] PC initiative. So, has Sun squandered its early lead as an alternative to Microsoft Office? Works With U  looks for answers. Sun Microsystems, the original advocate of OpenOffice, missed the boat when IBM, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t see the big deal about the &quot;Microsoft free PC&quot; anyway, it just looks to me like IBM is bundling Lotus-whateva for the major Linux distros.  So what?  If contributing an office suite constitutes some big new &quot;push&quot; or &quot;initiative&quot;, then I guess Sun has been doing &quot;MS free PC&quot; for years now.

From my perspective, IBM is just coming in a day late and a dollar short:  I fail to see how their contribution to the situation really changes the desktop linux landscape, and in any case Lotus is not FOSS.  It&#039;s just freeware that happens to run on Linux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t see the big deal about the &#8220;Microsoft free PC&#8221; anyway, it just looks to me like IBM is bundling Lotus-whateva for the major Linux distros.  So what?  If contributing an office suite constitutes some big new &#8220;push&#8221; or &#8220;initiative&#8221;, then I guess Sun has been doing &#8220;MS free PC&#8221; for years now.</p>
<p>From my perspective, IBM is just coming in a day late and a dollar short:  I fail to see how their contribution to the situation really changes the desktop linux landscape, and in any case Lotus is not FOSS.  It&#8217;s just freeware that happens to run on Linux.</p>
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