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		<title>By: The Realist</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/08/25/5-factors-making-ubuntu-server-business-ready/comment-page-1/#comment-115884</link>
		<dc:creator>The Realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>texanbrit hit the nail on the head.  Users ask for money for a project to do something, not for infrastructure.  For example, I went to a monthly meeting of the technology agency that provides IT services to my city.  The city where I live is one of the 10 largest in the USA and has over 1.2M people.  In the past six meetings, not one Ubuntu or open source advocate has attended the meetings to express sentiment.

When you go to the meeting, there is a recommendation to the board to spend money.  The recommendation is always for the end product, not the underlying platform.  No one cares about the underlying platform, only the users&#039; need.  In this case Weblogic is being adopted for a new city wide project.  Weblogic does not support Ubuntu.  It would be fiscal and managerial insanity to buy Weblogic, and pay for Weblogic implementation professionals at $350 per hour to save $2,500 on licensing of Red Hat over Ubuntu.  The board and the technology professionals use Red Hat, because it is used for other projects, Red Hat is Linux, Red Hat is supported, and because it is the right business decision.

The platform has to start with end users running the applications on the platform.  Until Oracle, SAP, Peoplesoft, Websphere, Weblogic and Veritas are supported, your talking like the guy with the aluminum hat standing on the street corner.  This is business, not advocacy.

If you disagree with me, go to your city council or IT open meeting and stand up and tell them how you feel.  I&#039;ll look for you at my meetings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>texanbrit hit the nail on the head.  Users ask for money for a project to do something, not for infrastructure.  For example, I went to a monthly meeting of the technology agency that provides IT services to my city.  The city where I live is one of the 10 largest in the USA and has over 1.2M people.  In the past six meetings, not one Ubuntu or open source advocate has attended the meetings to express sentiment.</p>
<p>When you go to the meeting, there is a recommendation to the board to spend money.  The recommendation is always for the end product, not the underlying platform.  No one cares about the underlying platform, only the users&#8217; need.  In this case Weblogic is being adopted for a new city wide project.  Weblogic does not support Ubuntu.  It would be fiscal and managerial insanity to buy Weblogic, and pay for Weblogic implementation professionals at $350 per hour to save $2,500 on licensing of Red Hat over Ubuntu.  The board and the technology professionals use Red Hat, because it is used for other projects, Red Hat is Linux, Red Hat is supported, and because it is the right business decision.</p>
<p>The platform has to start with end users running the applications on the platform.  Until Oracle, SAP, Peoplesoft, Websphere, Weblogic and Veritas are supported, your talking like the guy with the aluminum hat standing on the street corner.  This is business, not advocacy.</p>
<p>If you disagree with me, go to your city council or IT open meeting and stand up and tell them how you feel.  I&#8217;ll look for you at my meetings.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/08/25/5-factors-making-ubuntu-server-business-ready/comment-page-1/#comment-115883</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Texanbrit: You&#039;ve spotted one of Ubuntu&#039;s key weaknesses. We pointed out a few days ago that lack of SAP and Oracle support is a potential issue for some customers.

We suspect most Ubuntu users want LAMP and open source applications. But for those who want Oracle and SAP, among others, that&#039;s certainly a limitation at the current time and it&#039;s clear that neither Oracle nor SAP have any near-term plans for Ubuntu.

It&#039;s a matter of fulfilling customer demand. Most traditional &quot;enterprises&quot; may not be aware of Ubuntu Server Edition yet. But we are seeing Ubuntu pop up on more and more business servers. Check out our &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.workswithu.com/the-works-with-u-1000/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Works With U 1000&lt;/a&gt; list for a look at a few companies running Ubuntu servers.

I&#039;m not suggesting Ubuntu is perfect, but it&#039;s momentum is growing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Texanbrit: You&#8217;ve spotted one of Ubuntu&#8217;s key weaknesses. We pointed out a few days ago that lack of SAP and Oracle support is a potential issue for some customers.</p>
<p>We suspect most Ubuntu users want LAMP and open source applications. But for those who want Oracle and SAP, among others, that&#8217;s certainly a limitation at the current time and it&#8217;s clear that neither Oracle nor SAP have any near-term plans for Ubuntu.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a matter of fulfilling customer demand. Most traditional &#8220;enterprises&#8221; may not be aware of Ubuntu Server Edition yet. But we are seeing Ubuntu pop up on more and more business servers. Check out our <a href="http://www.workswithu.com/the-works-with-u-1000/" rel="nofollow">Works With U 1000</a> list for a look at a few companies running Ubuntu servers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting Ubuntu is perfect, but it&#8217;s momentum is growing.</p>
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		<title>By: texanbrit</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/08/25/5-factors-making-ubuntu-server-business-ready/comment-page-1/#comment-115882</link>
		<dc:creator>texanbrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about certification for enterprise applications like Oracle?  I don&#039;t want to have to run different distributions to get the appropriate support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about certification for enterprise applications like Oracle?  I don&#8217;t want to have to run different distributions to get the appropriate support.</p>
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		<title>By: Ubuntu Look &#187; 5 Factors Making Ubuntu Server Business Ready</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/08/25/5-factors-making-ubuntu-server-business-ready/comment-page-1/#comment-115881</link>
		<dc:creator>Ubuntu Look &#187; 5 Factors Making Ubuntu Server Business Ready</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu, is getting serious about the server. The company is working hard to partner with 3rd party server application providers, and to develop the required core OS services for Ubuntu to make it a highly successful business server platform. There are many factors that make Ubuntu a strong server platform, but the top 5 are:   Read more at Works With U [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu, is getting serious about the server. The company is working hard to partner with 3rd party server application providers, and to develop the required core OS services for Ubuntu to make it a highly successful business server platform. There are many factors that make Ubuntu a strong server platform, but the top 5 are:   Read more at Works With U [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/08/25/5-factors-making-ubuntu-server-business-ready/comment-page-1/#comment-115880</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vadim: I&#039;ve heard mixed things about Landscape, and also a few concerns that it&#039;s limited to managing Ubuntu systems. Wondering if Landscape is gaining traction. Any thoughts out there, folks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vadim: I&#8217;ve heard mixed things about Landscape, and also a few concerns that it&#8217;s limited to managing Ubuntu systems. Wondering if Landscape is gaining traction. Any thoughts out there, folks?</p>
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		<title>By: Boycott Novell &#187; Links 26/08/2008: Microsoft Snubs GNU/Linux, Apple Kills Open Source Project</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/08/25/5-factors-making-ubuntu-server-business-ready/comment-page-1/#comment-115879</link>
		<dc:creator>Boycott Novell &#187; Links 26/08/2008: Microsoft Snubs GNU/Linux, Apple Kills Open Source Project</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 5 Factors Making Ubuntu Server Business Ready [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Vadim P.</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/08/25/5-factors-making-ubuntu-server-business-ready/comment-page-1/#comment-115878</link>
		<dc:creator>Vadim P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good list, I agree. They&#039;ve plugged some things themselves where needed also (ie, #2 - Landscape? http://www.canonical.com/projects/landscape)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good list, I agree. They&#8217;ve plugged some things themselves where needed also (ie, #2 &#8211; Landscape? <a href="http://www.canonical.com/projects/landscape" rel="nofollow">http://www.canonical.com/projects/landscape</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: TechIQ &#187; Archive &#187; One VAR&#8217;s Story: Mastering Managed Services</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/08/25/5-factors-making-ubuntu-server-business-ready/comment-page-1/#comment-1264</link>
		<dc:creator>TechIQ &#187; Archive &#187; One VAR&#8217;s Story: Mastering Managed Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] generating recurring revenue for CNS. Other VARs are making similar moves. Check out TechIQ&#8217;s feature on the march toward managed services. The piece points out many of the challenges involved in the [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] generating recurring revenue for CNS. Other VARs are making similar moves. Check out TechIQ&#8217;s feature on the march toward managed services. The piece points out many of the challenges involved in the [...]</p>
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