Comments on: CIOs: Finally Falling for Novell Again? http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/08/29/cios-finally-falling-for-novell-again/ Channel News, Reseller News and Channel Partner Programs Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:00:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Chris http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/08/29/cios-finally-falling-for-novell-again/comment-page-1/#comment-79517 Chris Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:59:22 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/08/29/cios-finally-falling-for-novell-again/#comment-79517 A few thoughts, one I love JBoss, if you haven't used it, you're missing out. Two, to hell with Novell. Sell-outs. 3)If you haven't used RHEL 4 or 5 you're missing out. Moved our enterprise from Windows to Linux and have never looked back. A few thoughts, one I love JBoss, if you haven’t used it, you’re missing out. Two, to hell with Novell. Sell-outs. 3)If you haven’t used RHEL 4 or 5 you’re missing out. Moved our enterprise from Windows to Linux and have never looked back.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/08/29/cios-finally-falling-for-novell-again/comment-page-1/#comment-79352 Roy Schestowitz Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:03:02 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/08/29/cios-finally-falling-for-novell-again/#comment-79352 VAR Guy, Novell's history of fraud is well-documented, e.g. here: http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0198-225344/Novell-fraud-lawsuit-settled-for.html Novell's more recent admission: http://boycottnovell.com/2007/12/08/novell-massages-figures/ I will write a post about it later today to elucidate further. VAR Guy,

Novell’s history of fraud is well-documented, e.g. here:

http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0198-225344/Novell-fraud-lawsuit-settled-for.html

Novell’s more recent admission:

http://boycottnovell.com/2007/12/08/novell-massages-figures/

I will write a post about it later today to elucidate further.

]]> By: Tom T http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/08/29/cios-finally-falling-for-novell-again/comment-page-1/#comment-79340 Tom T Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:48:48 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/08/29/cios-finally-falling-for-novell-again/#comment-79340 I must disagree with your criteria for booing. Linux supporters should not stop booing Novell because "sleeping with Microsoft really is good for Novell’s health" or because some/many "CIOs seem to like the strange bedfellows." Should we stop the booing because it's good to have two major players (Red Hat and Novell) in the enterprise universe instead of just one? Generally, the two-major-player scenario looks better than a solitary major player. But including MS in the mix makes me wary. My impression is that, in order to be competitive with Red Hat, Novell made a deal with people who in a U.S. court of law "proved, time and time again, to be inaccurate, misleading, evasive, and transparently false. ... a company with an institutional disdain for both the truth and for rules of law that lesser entities must respect... a company whose senior management is not averse to offering specious testimony to support spurious defenses to claims of its wrongdoing." [quote excerpts are from U.S. Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson] Actually, if there is anyone around in open source that needs booing, it is probably Novell. I must disagree with your criteria for booing. Linux supporters should not stop booing Novell because “sleeping with Microsoft really is good for Novell’s health” or because some/many “CIOs seem to like the strange bedfellows.”

Should we stop the booing because it’s good to have two major players (Red Hat and Novell) in the enterprise universe instead of just one? Generally, the two-major-player scenario looks better than a solitary major player. But including MS in the mix makes me wary.

My impression is that, in order to be competitive with Red Hat, Novell made a deal with people who in a U.S. court of law “proved, time and time again, to be inaccurate, misleading, evasive, and transparently false. … a company with an institutional disdain for both the truth and for rules of law that lesser entities must respect… a company whose senior management is not averse to offering specious testimony to support spurious defenses to claims of its wrongdoing.” [quote excerpts are from U.S. Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson]

Actually, if there is anyone around in open source that needs booing, it is probably Novell.

]]> By: The VAR GUy http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/08/29/cios-finally-falling-for-novell-again/comment-page-1/#comment-79329 The VAR GUy Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:13:18 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/08/29/cios-finally-falling-for-novell-again/#comment-79329 Roy: Where did NOVL admit to cooking its books? Stock is up this week, which suggests investors aren't feeling any panic. Tech companies that cook their books (years ago: Informix, Computer Associates, etc.) usually see their stocks plummet amid SEC inquiries... Strange for The VAR Guy to spend so much time defending NOVL these days. The company still has its flaws, but cooking the books is one allegation that The VAR Guy hasn't heard. Roy: Where did NOVL admit to cooking its books? Stock is up this week, which suggests investors aren’t feeling any panic. Tech companies that cook their books (years ago: Informix, Computer Associates, etc.) usually see their stocks plummet amid SEC inquiries…

Strange for The VAR Guy to spend so much time defending NOVL these days. The company still has its flaws, but cooking the books is one allegation that The VAR Guy hasn’t heard.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/08/29/cios-finally-falling-for-novell-again/comment-page-1/#comment-79328 Roy Schestowitz Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:59:23 +0000 http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/08/29/cios-finally-falling-for-novell-again/#comment-79328 Novell's losses widened, the company admits cooking the books and I spot many spinner that parrot Novell's twist on debt write-off. Novell’s losses widened, the company admits cooking the books and I spot many spinner that parrot Novell’s twist on debt write-off.

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