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	<title>Comments on: Attention Microsoft: I&#039;m A PC (Running Ubuntu Linux)</title>
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		<title>By: Zac</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/09/21/attention-microsoft-im-a-pc-running-ubuntu-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-116087</link>
		<dc:creator>Zac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ubuntu rocks!
But, unfortunately there is software with features and websites only made for Windows. Microsoft is huge. It is funny how Microsoft is cunningly playing the underdog with reference to Google and with technology journo&#039;s falling for it. What a joke. Windows is virtually a monopoly, on 99% on PCs you buy in the stores.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ubuntu rocks!<br />
But, unfortunately there is software with features and websites only made for Windows. Microsoft is huge. It is funny how Microsoft is cunningly playing the underdog with reference to Google and with technology journo&#8217;s falling for it. What a joke. Windows is virtually a monopoly, on 99% on PCs you buy in the stores.</p>
<p>Come on Ubuntu, get a move on here!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 07:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing most missed is that Microsoft has tried to appropriate the Linux slogan &quot;With no walls who needs Windows&quot; by saying that you need Windows with no walls.

Doesn&#039;t anyone at Microsoft realize just how stupid that statement makes them look????

I mean really with no walls why in the name of the unholy would you need any kind of windows??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing most missed is that Microsoft has tried to appropriate the Linux slogan &#8220;With no walls who needs Windows&#8221; by saying that you need Windows with no walls.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t anyone at Microsoft realize just how stupid that statement makes them look????</p>
<p>I mean really with no walls why in the name of the unholy would you need any kind of windows??</p>
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		<title>By: Rambo Tribble</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/09/21/attention-microsoft-im-a-pc-running-ubuntu-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-116085</link>
		<dc:creator>Rambo Tribble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Microsoft&#039;s only product was a buggy BASIC interpreter, Digital Research was producing CP/M for Z80 and Intel 8080/8085 machines. Kaypros and Osbornes did not run Microsoft and it was their success that prompted IBM to introduce the PC.

Microsoft&#039;s hand was more involved in milking the PC revolution than in breeding it. Indeed, it was the cracking of the PC&#039;s BIOS that ushered in the flood of PC-compatible equipment, not Microsoft&#039;s OS, (which was initially written by Tim Patterson at Seattle Computer, not Microsoft).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Microsoft&#8217;s only product was a buggy BASIC interpreter, Digital Research was producing CP/M for Z80 and Intel 8080/8085 machines. Kaypros and Osbornes did not run Microsoft and it was their success that prompted IBM to introduce the PC.</p>
<p>Microsoft&#8217;s hand was more involved in milking the PC revolution than in breeding it. Indeed, it was the cracking of the PC&#8217;s BIOS that ushered in the flood of PC-compatible equipment, not Microsoft&#8217;s OS, (which was initially written by Tim Patterson at Seattle Computer, not Microsoft).</p>
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		<title>By: IGnatius T Foobar</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/09/21/attention-microsoft-im-a-pc-running-ubuntu-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-116084</link>
		<dc:creator>IGnatius T Foobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alan

You said: &quot;How much of a threat is Apple to Microsoft, realistically? I know mac fanboys will bristle at the suggestion, but Apple’s business model doesn’t scale to a level where they could seriously threaten MS’s monopoly.&quot;

Inadvertently, you made an important point, but not the one you think you made --

Apple doesn&#039;t threaten Microsoft&#039;s market share in a significant way, but Apple does threaten Microsoft&#039;s *monopoly*.  Linux does too.  Microsoft is a company whose business model now depends upon monopoly -- they are so addicted to the network effect of monopoly that they are unable to compete fairly.  As a result, any significant presence of a competitor is going to harm their market position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alan</p>
<p>You said: &#8220;How much of a threat is Apple to Microsoft, realistically? I know mac fanboys will bristle at the suggestion, but Apple’s business model doesn’t scale to a level where they could seriously threaten MS’s monopoly.&#8221;</p>
<p>Inadvertently, you made an important point, but not the one you think you made &#8211;</p>
<p>Apple doesn&#8217;t threaten Microsoft&#8217;s market share in a significant way, but Apple does threaten Microsoft&#8217;s *monopoly*.  Linux does too.  Microsoft is a company whose business model now depends upon monopoly &#8212; they are so addicted to the network effect of monopoly that they are unable to compete fairly.  As a result, any significant presence of a competitor is going to harm their market position.</p>
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		<title>By: Vadim P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vadim P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bruno: no, that is a correct SEO...

(of course, Ubuntu is an OS, a GNU\Linux distribution, etc.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bruno: no, that is a correct SEO&#8230;</p>
<p>(of course, Ubuntu is an OS, a GNU\Linux distribution, etc.)</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno Miguel</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/09/21/attention-microsoft-im-a-pc-running-ubuntu-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-116082</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruno Miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joe Panettieri
And incorrect, also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joe Panettieri<br />
And incorrect, also.</p>
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		<title>By: mpt</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/09/21/attention-microsoft-im-a-pc-running-ubuntu-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-116081</link>
		<dc:creator>mpt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“I suspect Microsoft is trying to communicate that PCs have open architectures”

Then you really need to watch the ad again. There’s nothing in it that even remotely suggests ”open architectures”.

On the contrary, the Microsoft campaign (unlike the Apple campaign) deliberately equates “a PC” with “a person using Windows”. In this world, PCs running Ubuntu don’t exist at all. That’s a perfectly understandable way for Microsoft’s mass-market advertising to treat Ubuntu at this point: that they’ve “overlooked … the rising popularity of open software like Ubuntu” is entirely intentional.

If Ubuntu had 30% market share, Microsoft’s “I’m a PC” campaign would make no sense (because any “PC” could be running either Windows or Ubuntu). But Apple’s Mac vs. PC campaign would trundle merrily on, with John Hodgman confusedly trying to choose between Vista (“’cause it runs all my apps”) and Ubuntu (”’cause it’s brown, and I like brown”).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I suspect Microsoft is trying to communicate that PCs have open architectures”</p>
<p>Then you really need to watch the ad again. There’s nothing in it that even remotely suggests ”open architectures”.</p>
<p>On the contrary, the Microsoft campaign (unlike the Apple campaign) deliberately equates “a PC” with “a person using Windows”. In this world, PCs running Ubuntu don’t exist at all. That’s a perfectly understandable way for Microsoft’s mass-market advertising to treat Ubuntu at this point: that they’ve “overlooked … the rising popularity of open software like Ubuntu” is entirely intentional.</p>
<p>If Ubuntu had 30% market share, Microsoft’s “I’m a PC” campaign would make no sense (because any “PC” could be running either Windows or Ubuntu). But Apple’s Mac vs. PC campaign would trundle merrily on, with John Hodgman confusedly trying to choose between Vista (“’cause it runs all my apps”) and Ubuntu (”’cause it’s brown, and I like brown”).</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/09/21/attention-microsoft-im-a-pc-running-ubuntu-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-116080</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No.  Microsoft do not deserve credit for introducing low cost computing.  The word you were searching for is &quot;Intel&quot; and &quot;AMD&quot; with a sprinkling of &quot;IBM PC clones&quot;.  As manufacturing technologies improves so the cost per unit dropped.  All Microsoft did was force OEM&#039;s for sign up for some highly dubious agreements over licensing and cost per unit... which they were eventually, globally, slapped for (amongst other things).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.  Microsoft do not deserve credit for introducing low cost computing.  The word you were searching for is &#8220;Intel&#8221; and &#8220;AMD&#8221; with a sprinkling of &#8220;IBM PC clones&#8221;.  As manufacturing technologies improves so the cost per unit dropped.  All Microsoft did was force OEM&#8217;s for sign up for some highly dubious agreements over licensing and cost per unit&#8230; which they were eventually, globally, slapped for (amongst other things).</p>
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		<title>By: dougy</title>
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		<dc:creator>dougy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine this commercial:

PC User sitting in front of a blue screen of death. &quot;Another BSOD, No WALLS????&quot; and user throws Vista package out the window.

Fade into next screen:

User sitting in front of linux desktop... &quot;No walls, no windows, no crashing!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine this commercial:</p>
<p>PC User sitting in front of a blue screen of death. &#8220;Another BSOD, No WALLS????&#8221; and user throws Vista package out the window.</p>
<p>Fade into next screen:</p>
<p>User sitting in front of linux desktop&#8230; &#8220;No walls, no windows, no crashing!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: paul (the unverified)</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul (the unverified)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just another ill-conceived ad campaign from the greatest follower and opportunist of all time.

First of all, I&#039;m a PC and I&#039;ve been stereotyped. You moron!!! Of course you&#039;ve been stereotyped. That&#039;s because you&#039;ve been an unthinking clod for all these years using a crappy software product from a company that doesn&#039;t want you to own your own computer. You are lemmings. Dimwits that continue to step up with your wallets open and, in one of the most naive and unquestioning behaviors imaginable, hand over fist-fulls of money to a convicted monopolist.

&quot;I&#039;m a PC and I fish.&quot; Sorry. I don&#039;t see the connection. Unless of course, it&#039;s Redmond that is doing the fishing and you took the bait.

At least the Mac commercials talk about real issues like viruses and being productive. (Hold the emails, folks, I&#039;m posting this from my Sidux laptop.)

This commercial just makes winDOHs users look pathetic and empty-headed. They can&#039;t even tell us why they chose the garbage in the first place. All they&#039;re saying is &quot;Hey, don&#039;t stereotype me. There are lots of people that use winDOHs.&quot;

So how do stereotypes start in the first place? Hmmmm. First you get a lot of people to do the same thing... something else happens... then profit. Lots and lots of profit.

Why don&#039;t they just come right out and say it. I use winDOHs because I&#039;ve been convinced that everybody else does. How&#039;s that for independent, free-thinking behavior? Right. There&#039;s absolutely no reason why you people should be stereotyped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just another ill-conceived ad campaign from the greatest follower and opportunist of all time.</p>
<p>First of all, I&#8217;m a PC and I&#8217;ve been stereotyped. You moron!!! Of course you&#8217;ve been stereotyped. That&#8217;s because you&#8217;ve been an unthinking clod for all these years using a crappy software product from a company that doesn&#8217;t want you to own your own computer. You are lemmings. Dimwits that continue to step up with your wallets open and, in one of the most naive and unquestioning behaviors imaginable, hand over fist-fulls of money to a convicted monopolist.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m a PC and I fish.&#8221; Sorry. I don&#8217;t see the connection. Unless of course, it&#8217;s Redmond that is doing the fishing and you took the bait.</p>
<p>At least the Mac commercials talk about real issues like viruses and being productive. (Hold the emails, folks, I&#8217;m posting this from my Sidux laptop.)</p>
<p>This commercial just makes winDOHs users look pathetic and empty-headed. They can&#8217;t even tell us why they chose the garbage in the first place. All they&#8217;re saying is &#8220;Hey, don&#8217;t stereotype me. There are lots of people that use winDOHs.&#8221;</p>
<p>So how do stereotypes start in the first place? Hmmmm. First you get a lot of people to do the same thing&#8230; something else happens&#8230; then profit. Lots and lots of profit.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t they just come right out and say it. I use winDOHs because I&#8217;ve been convinced that everybody else does. How&#8217;s that for independent, free-thinking behavior? Right. There&#8217;s absolutely no reason why you people should be stereotyped.</p>
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		<title>By: mario tremblay</title>
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		<dc:creator>mario tremblay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its been said before... Mac, PC: same thing.

Cuban Jose Marti said once &quot;To change masters is not to be free.&quot;

I discovered Ubuntu 7.04 about 2 years ago and havent looked back. I&#039;ve installed Kubuntu and Puppy on old laptops and PCLinuxOS and Mandriva 2008 for my parents.
Seeing all this led my two sisters in law to not fear Linux and they got themselves the Acer One netbook with Linpus Lite Linux which they love.

No more antivirus, malware and trojans. No more giving out money for new incrementals updates of a pretty OS which eats its old that it has no remorse leaving behind.
Bringing life back to old hardware.

All the things we have gotten since our family moved away from proprietary software (we still keep the XP partition on one machine for two games: Chessmaster and David Douillet Judo... everything else is in the console.).
I&#039;ve been aware of Linux through friends at work but never felt it ready for our family.
The past 18 months have changed all that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its been said before&#8230; Mac, PC: same thing.</p>
<p>Cuban Jose Marti said once &#8220;To change masters is not to be free.&#8221;</p>
<p>I discovered Ubuntu 7.04 about 2 years ago and havent looked back. I&#8217;ve installed Kubuntu and Puppy on old laptops and PCLinuxOS and Mandriva 2008 for my parents.<br />
Seeing all this led my two sisters in law to not fear Linux and they got themselves the Acer One netbook with Linpus Lite Linux which they love.</p>
<p>No more antivirus, malware and trojans. No more giving out money for new incrementals updates of a pretty OS which eats its old that it has no remorse leaving behind.<br />
Bringing life back to old hardware.</p>
<p>All the things we have gotten since our family moved away from proprietary software (we still keep the XP partition on one machine for two games: Chessmaster and David Douillet Judo&#8230; everything else is in the console.).<br />
I&#8217;ve been aware of Linux through friends at work but never felt it ready for our family.<br />
The past 18 months have changed all that.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane kerns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane kerns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK .... so I installed Ubuntu 7.10 on my land lady&#039;s computer who was going to buy another laptop just because XP was slowing down her computer over time, no to mention spyware, adware possibly a few viruses too. I just re-provisioned her P3 800Mhz laptop with Ubuntu and when 8.04 was released I upgraded Ubuntu 7.10 over the internet. I installed for her all the apps that she would need and not once have I got a support/help request from her, including gtkpod for her ipod. She is sooooo happy using her old laptop that runs the ClamAV and Firestarter firewall all for free. The only call I got from her was requesting me to install Ubuntu even on her husband&#039;s, daughter and her parent&#039;s computers as well :). She asked me that since the OS is sooooooo good (and she went on and on about how good it was - it was even boring me) why others don&#039;t use it. All I said was that there is lack of publicity and advertising.
Can you imagine that if a 50 something lady doesn&#039;t have problems with with Ubuntu then at least the sub 50 or so age group shouldn&#039;t either since they would be more tech savvy at least in theory. My land lady even uses GIMP. Going from XP to Vista would have a huge learning curve anyways so I figured that moving her to Ubuntu would be a good bet. In fact it is probably easier to move from XP to Ubuntu than from XP to Vista. Imagine if she would have moved to Vista with a new laptop she would have lost faith in OSes.
I personally use Slackware and I think Linux (doesn&#039;t matter the flavor - pick your poison that your hardware can support) is a great way to prevent computers from going to landfills thereby making it environmentally friendly as well.
I moved to Linux some 7 years ago when Windows ate up my final year Electrical Engineering project in DSP. I have been using Slackware since and haven&#039;t looked back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK &#8230;. so I installed Ubuntu 7.10 on my land lady&#8217;s computer who was going to buy another laptop just because XP was slowing down her computer over time, no to mention spyware, adware possibly a few viruses too. I just re-provisioned her P3 800Mhz laptop with Ubuntu and when 8.04 was released I upgraded Ubuntu 7.10 over the internet. I installed for her all the apps that she would need and not once have I got a support/help request from her, including gtkpod for her ipod. She is sooooo happy using her old laptop that runs the ClamAV and Firestarter firewall all for free. The only call I got from her was requesting me to install Ubuntu even on her husband&#8217;s, daughter and her parent&#8217;s computers as well <img src='http://c810354.r54.cf2.rackcdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . She asked me that since the OS is sooooooo good (and she went on and on about how good it was &#8211; it was even boring me) why others don&#8217;t use it. All I said was that there is lack of publicity and advertising.<br />
Can you imagine that if a 50 something lady doesn&#8217;t have problems with with Ubuntu then at least the sub 50 or so age group shouldn&#8217;t either since they would be more tech savvy at least in theory. My land lady even uses GIMP. Going from XP to Vista would have a huge learning curve anyways so I figured that moving her to Ubuntu would be a good bet. In fact it is probably easier to move from XP to Ubuntu than from XP to Vista. Imagine if she would have moved to Vista with a new laptop she would have lost faith in OSes.<br />
I personally use Slackware and I think Linux (doesn&#8217;t matter the flavor &#8211; pick your poison that your hardware can support) is a great way to prevent computers from going to landfills thereby making it environmentally friendly as well.<br />
I moved to Linux some 7 years ago when Windows ate up my final year Electrical Engineering project in DSP. I have been using Slackware since and haven&#8217;t looked back.</p>
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