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	<title>Comments on: Broadcom Switches to the Light Side: The Start of a New Era?</title>
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		<title>By: Rower</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Exercise Machine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Exercise Machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: snorkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>snorkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: EluttbleW</title>
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		<dc:creator>EluttbleW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 08:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: atx</title>
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		<dc:creator>atx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 01:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Donovan, your comment helped me to choose a wireless option for a laptop I am planning to buy soon.</description>
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		<title>By: Donovan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but to me Broadcom has a long way to go to earn my trust. I&#039;ve had to fight constantly with their products because they refused to release the specs to their chipsets. I&#039;ve recently ripped out the broadcom from my Aspire One and replaced it with an Intel 3945ABG. The Intel does &quot;Just Work&quot; under Linux.

Sorry Broadcom, but until you release ALL the specifications on ALL your chips, I won&#039;t be buying anything with them in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but to me Broadcom has a long way to go to earn my trust. I&#8217;ve had to fight constantly with their products because they refused to release the specs to their chipsets. I&#8217;ve recently ripped out the broadcom from my Aspire One and replaced it with an Intel 3945ABG. The Intel does &#8220;Just Work&#8221; under Linux.</p>
<p>Sorry Broadcom, but until you release ALL the specifications on ALL your chips, I won&#8217;t be buying anything with them in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sum Yung Gai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sum Yung Gai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting Broadcom&#039;s drivers open-sourced is not the real issue here.  Rather, getting Broadcom to allow distribution of their firmwares is.  Since Broadcom will now permit redistribution of their entire proprietary driver, there is no good reason not to premit redistribution of the firmwares.  Remember, when you redistribute the whole driver, you *must* redistribute the firmwares if you want the wireless NIC to actually work.

We *already have* a fine driver which is GPL&#039;d, and that&#039;s the bcm43xx/b43 driver.  All we need now is simply permission to redistribute the firmware.  *THAT&#039;S ALL.*

If Canonical is indeed going to put Broadcom&#039;s proprietary driver into the Ubuntu repositories, then that&#039;s a disincentive for Broadcom to grant this permission.  For Free Software&#039;s sake, I hope Canonical doesn&#039;t make that mistake.

--SYG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting Broadcom&#8217;s drivers open-sourced is not the real issue here.  Rather, getting Broadcom to allow distribution of their firmwares is.  Since Broadcom will now permit redistribution of their entire proprietary driver, there is no good reason not to premit redistribution of the firmwares.  Remember, when you redistribute the whole driver, you *must* redistribute the firmwares if you want the wireless NIC to actually work.</p>
<p>We *already have* a fine driver which is GPL&#8217;d, and that&#8217;s the bcm43xx/b43 driver.  All we need now is simply permission to redistribute the firmware.  *THAT&#8217;S ALL.*</p>
<p>If Canonical is indeed going to put Broadcom&#8217;s proprietary driver into the Ubuntu repositories, then that&#8217;s a disincentive for Broadcom to grant this permission.  For Free Software&#8217;s sake, I hope Canonical doesn&#8217;t make that mistake.</p>
<p>&#8211;SYG</p>
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		<title>By: L</title>
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		<dc:creator>L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 05:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2008 WAS the year of Linux desktop(or netbook if you prefer it so). DELL , HP , ASUS, ACER &amp; MSI sell Linux netbooks. And market share doubled to 2%.What else do we need to declare 2008 as THE YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2008 WAS the year of Linux desktop(or netbook if you prefer it so). DELL , HP , ASUS, ACER &amp; MSI sell Linux netbooks. And market share doubled to 2%.What else do we need to declare 2008 as THE YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP???</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 04:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vadim,

Very interesting.  I hadn&#039;t read that, but Shuttleworth may well have been hinting at the Broadcom deal--Broadcom&#039;s drivers now are closed and proprietary, but Canonical is supposed to be pushing to get them more open.  Unfortunately, this whole Broadcom thing seems to be happening behind closed doors--when I asked some Ubuntu developers for comments on it, no one gave me any more than very cursory remarks, citing &quot;contractual obligations&quot; not to talk about it.  So it&#039;s hard to know at this point what the future of these drivers is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vadim,</p>
<p>Very interesting.  I hadn&#8217;t read that, but Shuttleworth may well have been hinting at the Broadcom deal&#8211;Broadcom&#8217;s drivers now are closed and proprietary, but Canonical is supposed to be pushing to get them more open.  Unfortunately, this whole Broadcom thing seems to be happening behind closed doors&#8211;when I asked some Ubuntu developers for comments on it, no one gave me any more than very cursory remarks, citing &#8220;contractual obligations&#8221; not to talk about it.  So it&#8217;s hard to know at this point what the future of these drivers is.</p>
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		<title>By: Juan Pablo Angamarca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juan Pablo Angamarca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 04:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go Intel, Go ATI, Go HP, Go Broadcom (from now). NVIDIA, what are you people waiting for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go Intel, Go ATI, Go HP, Go Broadcom (from now). NVIDIA, what are you people waiting for?</p>
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		<title>By: attspysonyou</title>
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		<dc:creator>attspysonyou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 03:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also all telecomm devices have mandated back doors.  If the software drivers aren&#039;t right the back doors might not work.  obviously the spy agencies would mandate to provide the official interfacing code to deliver a working system.  beware closed systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also all telecomm devices have mandated back doors.  If the software drivers aren&#8217;t right the back doors might not work.  obviously the spy agencies would mandate to provide the official interfacing code to deliver a working system.  beware closed systems.</p>
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		<title>By: Vadim P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vadim P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 02:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahah! Broadcom. I guess that is who Mark Shuttleworth hinted amidst the Firefox EULA debate:

&quot;For example, at the moment, we&#039;re in detailed negotiations with a
company that makes a lot of popular hardware to release their drivers as
free software - they are currently proprietary. It would not be possible
to hold those negotiations if every step of the way turned into a public
discussion. And yet, engaging with that company both to make sure Ubuntu
works with its hardware and also to move them towards open source
drivers would seem to be precisely in keeping with our community values.&quot;

Actually hmm... that just might not be Broadcom, if they&#039;re only opening up proprietary ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahah! Broadcom. I guess that is who Mark Shuttleworth hinted amidst the Firefox EULA debate:</p>
<p>&#8220;For example, at the moment, we&#8217;re in detailed negotiations with a<br />
company that makes a lot of popular hardware to release their drivers as<br />
free software &#8211; they are currently proprietary. It would not be possible<br />
to hold those negotiations if every step of the way turned into a public<br />
discussion. And yet, engaging with that company both to make sure Ubuntu<br />
works with its hardware and also to move them towards open source<br />
drivers would seem to be precisely in keeping with our community values.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually hmm&#8230; that just might not be Broadcom, if they&#8217;re only opening up proprietary ones.</p>
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