Comments on: My Two Biggest Ubuntu Gripes http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/10/13/my-two-biggest-ubuntu-gripes/ Channel News, Reseller News and Channel Partner Programs Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:59:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Toby Deemer http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/10/13/my-two-biggest-ubuntu-gripes/comment-page-1/#comment-116172 Toby Deemer Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:44:42 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/13/my-two-biggest-ubuntu-gripes/#comment-116172 Indeed I have been encouraged lately by big vendors, in particular- Broadcom and ATI- opening up more to Linux users. I think the ATI card in my laptop may be slightly too far ahead of the curve in terms of being supported though. It's **slightly** too old- Radeon 200 Mobile. Eh, well... Now if we just get Lexmark to write real drivers for Linux, then all my woes would be assuaged... I am going to start messing more with Intrepid pretty soon. The first Live CD I burned of it was a few weeks ago, so it wasn't a complete as it is now. I'll be testing it more in the near future; I'm excited about some of the announced features. I do have to say before I go- I was really pleased that I got dual-head working the way it did, because the ATI drivers that were available for my card invariably broke DVD playback... So I was happy to not have to resort to the proprietary drivers and lose DVD, or keep DVD and not have dual-head... Indeed I have been encouraged lately by big vendors, in particular- Broadcom and ATI- opening up more to Linux users. I think the ATI card in my laptop may be slightly too far ahead of the curve in terms of being supported though. It’s **slightly** too old- Radeon 200 Mobile. Eh, well…

Now if we just get Lexmark to write real drivers for Linux, then all my woes would be assuaged…

I am going to start messing more with Intrepid pretty soon. The first Live CD I burned of it was a few weeks ago, so it wasn’t a complete as it is now. I’ll be testing it more in the near future; I’m excited about some of the announced features.

I do have to say before I go- I was really pleased that I got dual-head working the way it did, because the ATI drivers that were available for my card invariably broke DVD playback… So I was happy to not have to resort to the proprietary drivers and lose DVD, or keep DVD and not have dual-head…

]]> By: Vadim P. http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/10/13/my-two-biggest-ubuntu-gripes/comment-page-1/#comment-116171 Vadim P. Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:28:06 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/13/my-two-biggest-ubuntu-gripes/#comment-116171 Griping is healthy for you! Though I believe 8.10 features better multi-monitor support. Griping is healthy for you!

Though I believe 8.10 features better multi-monitor support.

]]> By: carlos http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/10/13/my-two-biggest-ubuntu-gripes/comment-page-1/#comment-116170 carlos Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:27:42 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/13/my-two-biggest-ubuntu-gripes/#comment-116170 As far as the dual monitors, I had small issues in 7.10 but the Nvidia's config program easily fixed that. Not sure about issues with it on ATI cards, this should get alot better now that their partially open. In the office I use Evolution and using it with Exchange IS incredibly slow and buggy. My solution was to use IMAP and LDAP for the address book, there is no way for me to get the calender cleanly that I know of, plus nobody else in here uses it so its pointless. Evolution is Ubuntu's problem though, they could have chosen Thunderbird or something else, they don't use Epiphany as their default browser or Abiword as the default word processor. Thats what distributions do, they pick the best of all different packages and the better distros test and patch them to make sure they work as expected. That said though I don't think Ubuntu needs to waste their time on getting Evolution to work with a server that doesn't want anything but its own client to communicate with. They need to continue their focus on making a server that will replace Exchange and play nice with many different clients. Linux in general is already king at this but Ubuntu just needs to continue making it easier for the small businesses. Evolution using standard protocols works great for me though. As far as the dual monitors, I had small issues in 7.10 but the Nvidia’s config program easily fixed that. Not sure about issues with it on ATI cards, this should get alot better now that their partially open.

In the office I use Evolution and using it with Exchange IS incredibly slow and buggy. My solution was to use IMAP and LDAP for the address book, there is no way for me to get the calender cleanly that I know of, plus nobody else in here uses it so its pointless.

Evolution is Ubuntu’s problem though, they could have chosen Thunderbird or something else, they don’t use Epiphany as their default browser or Abiword as the default word processor. Thats what distributions do, they pick the best of all different packages and the better distros test and patch them to make sure they work as expected. That said though I don’t think Ubuntu needs to waste their time on getting Evolution to work with a server that doesn’t want anything but its own client to communicate with. They need to continue their focus on making a server that will replace Exchange and play nice with many different clients. Linux in general is already king at this but Ubuntu just needs to continue making it easier for the small businesses. Evolution using standard protocols works great for me though.

]]> By: Lance http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/10/13/my-two-biggest-ubuntu-gripes/comment-page-1/#comment-116169 Lance Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:15:49 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/13/my-two-biggest-ubuntu-gripes/#comment-116169 Evolution is developed by mostly by Novell. I would turn to them for any support questions. If something is not working right I would expect them to make sure it does. Novell Evolution http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/features/evolution.html Evolution is developed by mostly by Novell. I would turn to them for any support questions. If something is not working right I would expect them to make sure it does.
Novell Evolution
http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/features/evolution.html

]]> By: Wesley http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/10/13/my-two-biggest-ubuntu-gripes/comment-page-1/#comment-116168 Wesley Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:48:30 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/13/my-two-biggest-ubuntu-gripes/#comment-116168 Dual monitor support... I couldn't agree more. I fall in the category of those that just gave up and said forget it. But, I have read that Intrepid is supposed to support this better. I haven't had a chance to tinker with it yet. Dual monitor support… I couldn’t agree more. I fall in the category of those that just gave up and said forget it. But, I have read that Intrepid is supposed to support this better. I haven’t had a chance to tinker with it yet.

]]> By: Toby Deemer http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/10/13/my-two-biggest-ubuntu-gripes/comment-page-1/#comment-116167 Toby Deemer Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:41:29 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/13/my-two-biggest-ubuntu-gripes/#comment-116167 Hi all- Thanks for the feedback- To Scott- I definitely wouldn't mind having KMail, if not for being in Gnome and not being crazy about the idea of a lot of coexisting libraries to run apps from either DE. I have been on the fence for a while though in looking at KDE. We'll see... Mikey- You're right, Evolution is definitely a Gnome issue. It's an issue that affects any distro that uses Gnome. Including Ubuntu, which uses it as the default desktop environment. So while not one directly, it translates to an Ubuntu issue because that's the default face that new users see. Given Canonical's recent commitment to working more with upstream development, perhaps enough Ubuntu Gnome users raising awareness of issues like these will help changes see light more quickly. Thanks again for the thoughts. -toby deemer Hi all-

Thanks for the feedback-

To Scott- I definitely wouldn’t mind having KMail, if not for being in Gnome and not being crazy about the idea of a lot of coexisting libraries to run apps from either DE. I have been on the fence for a while though in looking at KDE. We’ll see…

Mikey- You’re right, Evolution is definitely a Gnome issue. It’s an issue that affects any distro that uses Gnome. Including Ubuntu, which uses it as the default desktop environment. So while not one directly, it translates to an Ubuntu issue because that’s the default face that new users see. Given Canonical’s recent commitment to working more with upstream development, perhaps enough Ubuntu Gnome users raising awareness of issues like these will help changes see light more quickly.

Thanks again for the thoughts.

-toby deemer

]]> By: Joe Panettieri http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/10/13/my-two-biggest-ubuntu-gripes/comment-page-1/#comment-116166 Joe Panettieri Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:01:43 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/13/my-two-biggest-ubuntu-gripes/#comment-116166 Hey Mikey: Accuracy is critical to us. You've got a point re: Evolution's issues being GNOME rather than Ubuntu. Sorry we mixed words. Hey Mikey: Accuracy is critical to us. You’ve got a point re: Evolution’s issues being GNOME rather than Ubuntu. Sorry we mixed words.

]]> By: Mikey http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/10/13/my-two-biggest-ubuntu-gripes/comment-page-1/#comment-116165 Mikey Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:56:21 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/13/my-two-biggest-ubuntu-gripes/#comment-116165 Evolution is a piece of crap especially when tied to exchange. I know this is blog where accuracy lags behind facts but Evolution is a gnome problem not an Ubuntu problem. Evolution is a piece of crap especially when tied to exchange. I know this is blog where accuracy lags behind facts but Evolution is a gnome problem not an Ubuntu problem.

]]> By: feeshy http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/10/13/my-two-biggest-ubuntu-gripes/comment-page-1/#comment-116164 feeshy Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:49:48 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/13/my-two-biggest-ubuntu-gripes/#comment-116164 I find that a dual monitor configuration is mostly fine with proprietary Nvidia drivers and the Nvidia X Server Settings applet, but only mostly. Depending on the driver version certain external screens and projectors are not detected properly. As a business user you can't take the risk that a client's projector will work. After one embarrassing presentation, I make sure I have a Windows machine handy. My other gripe is the poor support for 3G connections in GNOME. I've tried the Intrepid beta with NM 0.7 and while it looks like they are working on it, it isn't working yet. Having applications like Firefox and Pidgin think you are offline when you are connected via wvdial is a pain. That said I'm still running an Ubuntu only machine. I find that a dual monitor configuration is mostly fine with proprietary Nvidia drivers and the Nvidia X Server Settings applet, but only mostly. Depending on the driver version certain external screens and projectors are not detected properly. As a business user you can’t take the risk that a client’s projector will work. After one embarrassing presentation, I make sure I have a Windows machine handy.

My other gripe is the poor support for 3G connections in GNOME. I’ve tried the Intrepid beta with NM 0.7 and while it looks like they are working on it, it isn’t working yet. Having applications like Firefox and Pidgin think you are offline when you are connected via wvdial is a pain.

That said I’m still running an Ubuntu only machine.

]]> By: Scott Bicknell http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/10/13/my-two-biggest-ubuntu-gripes/comment-page-1/#comment-116163 Scott Bicknell Tue, 14 Oct 2008 02:59:29 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/13/my-two-biggest-ubuntu-gripes/#comment-116163 There are a bunch of hits in Google for KMail exchange. Seems if IMAP is enabled, KMail works just fine. There are a bunch of hits in Google for KMail exchange. Seems if IMAP is enabled, KMail works just fine.

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