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	<title>Comments on: Novell vs. Red Hat: Read the Linux Fine Print</title>
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		<title>By: The VAR Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/11/24/novell-vs-red-hat-the-war-for-linux-software-partners/comment-page-1/#comment-86475</link>
		<dc:creator>The VAR Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin: Thanks for the perspective. Ultimately, The VAR Guy still sees this as an arms race. The more ISVs Novell has, the more attractive SUSE Linux becomes to customers. Red Hat knows that as well. So in that sense, it is an arms race.

However, that&#039;s the beauty of a blog -- particularly this blog. The VAR Guy will always welcome feedback and constructive criticism. And The VAR Guy will eat crow when we&#039;re wrong about specific points.

The VAR Guy is still a little confused in terms of Novell&#039;s math, and the original Novell statement, which read:

“Based on publicly available information, SUSE Linux Enterprise 9 and 10 have the most certified software applications when compared to the latest releases of all other commercial Linux* distributions.”

Still, it&#039;s great to hear from you. And regardless of what numbers you focus on, it is clear that Novell&#039;s ISV base for SUSE Linux is growing rapidly. No debate there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin: Thanks for the perspective. Ultimately, The VAR Guy still sees this as an arms race. The more ISVs Novell has, the more attractive SUSE Linux becomes to customers. Red Hat knows that as well. So in that sense, it is an arms race.</p>
<p>However, that&#8217;s the beauty of a blog &#8212; particularly this blog. The VAR Guy will always welcome feedback and constructive criticism. And The VAR Guy will eat crow when we&#8217;re wrong about specific points.</p>
<p>The VAR Guy is still a little confused in terms of Novell&#8217;s math, and the original Novell statement, which read:</p>
<p>“Based on publicly available information, SUSE Linux Enterprise 9 and 10 have the most certified software applications when compared to the latest releases of all other commercial Linux* distributions.”</p>
<p>Still, it&#8217;s great to hear from you. And regardless of what numbers you focus on, it is clear that Novell&#8217;s ISV base for SUSE Linux is growing rapidly. No debate there.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/11/24/novell-vs-red-hat-the-war-for-linux-software-partners/comment-page-1/#comment-86472</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw your BLOG posting on the number of applications certified on Novell&#039;s SUSE Linux and thought I would weigh in with a clarification. No one will ever confuse me with a marketing guy or posting fluff so here goes...

The Novell announcement actually compares SLE 9 &amp; 10 to RHEL 4 &amp; 5 not to RHEL 5 as stated in the BLOG. I realize RH posts applications certified all the way back to RHEL 2 but since its an important metric for platform providers and ISVs alike to migrate their customers forward to our most recent technologies, we chose to focus on the last two releases when posting applications. We could post more by reaching further back to SLE 6 &amp; 7 but whats would be the point. Most of our customer are on 9 &amp; 10. 

That said, I really don&#039;t see this as a race. We are simply trying to provide our customers with the finest ecosystem possible. If people want to count, so be it. I manage the group that builds and supports our OPS ISV ecosystem. Our goals are pretty straight forward; Make it as easy as possible for ISVs anywhere to deploy on our platform. We will continue to do this with our going forward releases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw your BLOG posting on the number of applications certified on Novell&#8217;s SUSE Linux and thought I would weigh in with a clarification. No one will ever confuse me with a marketing guy or posting fluff so here goes&#8230;</p>
<p>The Novell announcement actually compares SLE 9 &amp; 10 to RHEL 4 &amp; 5 not to RHEL 5 as stated in the BLOG. I realize RH posts applications certified all the way back to RHEL 2 but since its an important metric for platform providers and ISVs alike to migrate their customers forward to our most recent technologies, we chose to focus on the last two releases when posting applications. We could post more by reaching further back to SLE 6 &amp; 7 but whats would be the point. Most of our customer are on 9 &amp; 10. </p>
<p>That said, I really don&#8217;t see this as a race. We are simply trying to provide our customers with the finest ecosystem possible. If people want to count, so be it. I manage the group that builds and supports our OPS ISV ecosystem. Our goals are pretty straight forward; Make it as easy as possible for ISVs anywhere to deploy on our platform. We will continue to do this with our going forward releases.</p>
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		<title>By: HurdyGurdy</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/11/24/novell-vs-red-hat-the-war-for-linux-software-partners/comment-page-1/#comment-86039</link>
		<dc:creator>HurdyGurdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does Novell present an opportunity for a small VAR?  I was surfing the web the other day and I found this on their site:

&#039;The Novell Partners below are utilizing online electronic commerce to better serve you, making it faster and easier for you to purchase all Novell products.&#039;  And the page lists their recommended online retailers:  CDW, Insight, Softchoice, Softmart. (they don&#039;t really explain how it is &#039;easier&#039;)

You get to this page by clicking: &#039;How to Buy&#039; and then the icon of the shaking hands above the Buy from Distributor link.  And then when you go the the &#039;Buying Programs&#039; link it states:  &#039;By completing the form below, a Novell representative will contact you to provide the best pricing for your organization.&#039;

As a small VAR we don&#039;t think it necessary for our customers to buy their software from an online retailer, nor is our customer looking for the best price, but rather the best value.  We can&#039;t provide the best price, nor can we sell their solutions at the street price and make any margin.  So we as an SMB reseller believed it necessary to do something and we figured it would be in our best interest (and the interest of the customer&#039;s) to recommend the exact opposite of what Novell recommends.  So we printed out the web site verbage, turned it upside down and looked at it through a mirror.  Granted, it at first appeared to be just upside and backward letters, but we squinted our eyes real hard and found the answer.  Other small resellers can try this at home.  I would recommend the most liberal interpretation of what you see.  Does it mean my company doesn&#039;t recommend buying software from an online retailer?  Does it mean sell Red Hat or Microsoft?  Does it mean both or something else entirely?  It all depends upon the eyes of the beholder.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Novell present an opportunity for a small VAR?  I was surfing the web the other day and I found this on their site:</p>
<p>&#8216;The Novell Partners below are utilizing online electronic commerce to better serve you, making it faster and easier for you to purchase all Novell products.&#8217;  And the page lists their recommended online retailers:  CDW, Insight, Softchoice, Softmart. (they don&#8217;t really explain how it is &#8216;easier&#8217;)</p>
<p>You get to this page by clicking: &#8216;How to Buy&#8217; and then the icon of the shaking hands above the Buy from Distributor link.  And then when you go the the &#8216;Buying Programs&#8217; link it states:  &#8216;By completing the form below, a Novell representative will contact you to provide the best pricing for your organization.&#8217;</p>
<p>As a small VAR we don&#8217;t think it necessary for our customers to buy their software from an online retailer, nor is our customer looking for the best price, but rather the best value.  We can&#8217;t provide the best price, nor can we sell their solutions at the street price and make any margin.  So we as an SMB reseller believed it necessary to do something and we figured it would be in our best interest (and the interest of the customer&#8217;s) to recommend the exact opposite of what Novell recommends.  So we printed out the web site verbage, turned it upside down and looked at it through a mirror.  Granted, it at first appeared to be just upside and backward letters, but we squinted our eyes real hard and found the answer.  Other small resellers can try this at home.  I would recommend the most liberal interpretation of what you see.  Does it mean my company doesn&#8217;t recommend buying software from an online retailer?  Does it mean sell Red Hat or Microsoft?  Does it mean both or something else entirely?  It all depends upon the eyes of the beholder&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Parker</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/11/24/novell-vs-red-hat-the-war-for-linux-software-partners/comment-page-1/#comment-86006</link>
		<dc:creator>Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 09:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can banter all you want about the Novell/MS deal.  I&#039;m no MS fan myself but I&#039;m not an anti-MS zealot either.  In the real world of network administration where I live, anything that helps my thousands of Windows desktops and hundreds of Windows servers work with my Linux servers is a good thing.  I&#039;m talking about the new OES 2 with Domain Services for Windows.  We&#039;ll proceed cautiously with it but it looks good from here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can banter all you want about the Novell/MS deal.  I&#8217;m no MS fan myself but I&#8217;m not an anti-MS zealot either.  In the real world of network administration where I live, anything that helps my thousands of Windows desktops and hundreds of Windows servers work with my Linux servers is a good thing.  I&#8217;m talking about the new OES 2 with Domain Services for Windows.  We&#8217;ll proceed cautiously with it but it looks good from here.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gaskin</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/11/24/novell-vs-red-hat-the-war-for-linux-software-partners/comment-page-1/#comment-86003</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Gaskin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 08:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Novell&#039;s SUSE can be considered an untouchable distro of GNU/Linux based on investments from Microsoft and their patent indemnification agreement with Microsoft which is intended to undermine the rest of the GNU/Linux distros.

I expect bad things for Novell in the future based on this Microsoft relationship because Microsoft has _always_ acted in bad faith with regards to user freedom for all the years they&#039;ve been in business. In contrast with Microsoft, the trend of other IT companies is to have more respect for users freedom and autonomy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Novell&#8217;s SUSE can be considered an untouchable distro of GNU/Linux based on investments from Microsoft and their patent indemnification agreement with Microsoft which is intended to undermine the rest of the GNU/Linux distros.</p>
<p>I expect bad things for Novell in the future based on this Microsoft relationship because Microsoft has _always_ acted in bad faith with regards to user freedom for all the years they&#8217;ve been in business. In contrast with Microsoft, the trend of other IT companies is to have more respect for users freedom and autonomy.</p>
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		<title>By: The VAR Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/11/24/novell-vs-red-hat-the-war-for-linux-software-partners/comment-page-1/#comment-85753</link>
		<dc:creator>The VAR Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vadim: Thanks for following The VAR Guy on Twitter. He&#039;ll try to honor your link request at all times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vadim: Thanks for following The VAR Guy on Twitter. He&#8217;ll try to honor your link request at all times.</p>
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		<title>By: Vadim P.</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/11/24/novell-vs-red-hat-the-war-for-linux-software-partners/comment-page-1/#comment-85737</link>
		<dc:creator>Vadim P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>request of the lazy, please linkify the tinyurl link in twitter rss feed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>request of the lazy, please linkify the tinyurl link in twitter rss feed</p>
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		<title>By: matthorany</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/11/24/novell-vs-red-hat-the-war-for-linux-software-partners/comment-page-1/#comment-85714</link>
		<dc:creator>matthorany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes it does include Red Hat.  But it&#039;s not an attack on just them.  If you were an open-source company seeking to acquire more customers, then you do what you have too to succeed in this era of technology.  And that&#039;s not really anything to do with this particular article, but rather the ones I&#039;ve been seeing about Novell&#039;s agreement with Microsoft and offering migration tools to Red Hat users.  So what?  If you like Red Hat then you are going to be looking for another solution are you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it does include Red Hat.  But it&#8217;s not an attack on just them.  If you were an open-source company seeking to acquire more customers, then you do what you have too to succeed in this era of technology.  And that&#8217;s not really anything to do with this particular article, but rather the ones I&#8217;ve been seeing about Novell&#8217;s agreement with Microsoft and offering migration tools to Red Hat users.  So what?  If you like Red Hat then you are going to be looking for another solution are you?</p>
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		<title>By: anti-matthorany</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/11/24/novell-vs-red-hat-the-war-for-linux-software-partners/comment-page-1/#comment-85709</link>
		<dc:creator>anti-matthorany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;I like the words you use in the article… “Novell’s latest attack on Red Hat”&#039;

So when Novell say &quot;all other commercial Linux* distributions&quot;, who do you think they mean? Who are the other &#039;commercial&#039; distributions??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;I like the words you use in the article… “Novell’s latest attack on Red Hat”&#8217;</p>
<p>So when Novell say &#8220;all other commercial Linux* distributions&#8221;, who do you think they mean? Who are the other &#8216;commercial&#8217; distributions??</p>
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		<title>By: matthorany</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/11/24/novell-vs-red-hat-the-war-for-linux-software-partners/comment-page-1/#comment-85705</link>
		<dc:creator>matthorany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok... lie is fine.  I agree, you can&#039;t just say you have more certified software and it&#039;s magically true. But silent attack? C&#039;mon.  Just because I disagree with the statement about Novell attacking Red Hat; Is that a &quot;silent attack&quot; on The VAR Guy?  No.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok&#8230; lie is fine.  I agree, you can&#8217;t just say you have more certified software and it&#8217;s magically true. But silent attack? C&#8217;mon.  Just because I disagree with the statement about Novell attacking Red Hat; Is that a &#8220;silent attack&#8221; on The VAR Guy?  No.</p>
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		<title>By: The VAR Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/11/24/novell-vs-red-hat-the-war-for-linux-software-partners/comment-page-1/#comment-85704</link>
		<dc:creator>The VAR Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron: Point well taken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron: Point well taken.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Stretched the truth.&quot; &quot;Bending the truth.&quot; Give me a break!
Since when have we redefined the word &quot;truth&quot; to take on a meaning other than what it had? Just call it what it is: a lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Stretched the truth.&#8221; &#8220;Bending the truth.&#8221; Give me a break!<br />
Since when have we redefined the word &#8220;truth&#8221; to take on a meaning other than what it had? Just call it what it is: a lie.</p>
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