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	<title>Comments on: Three Reasons Windows 7 Will Fail On Netbooks</title>
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		<title>By: System 7 will fail! &#171; macwest-support.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>System 7 will fail! &#171; macwest-support.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The VAR Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/02/06/three-reasons-windows-7-will-fail-on-netbooks/comment-page-1/#comment-98078</link>
		<dc:creator>The VAR Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey John: Let&#039;s not lose sight of the fact that Microsoft freed the world from expensive, proprietary RISC/Unix systems. Everyone used to celebrate how open Unix was. But what about those price tags? Painful.

The VAR Guy was a strong advocate of Windows NT Server when it launched way back when. And there&#039;s still a lot to like about the company (Small Business Server, SQL Server come to mind).

But alas, our resident blogger isn&#039;t a fan of Microsoft&#039;s desktop offerings. That may change with Windows 7&#039;s launch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey John: Let&#8217;s not lose sight of the fact that Microsoft freed the world from expensive, proprietary RISC/Unix systems. Everyone used to celebrate how open Unix was. But what about those price tags? Painful.</p>
<p>The VAR Guy was a strong advocate of Windows NT Server when it launched way back when. And there&#8217;s still a lot to like about the company (Small Business Server, SQL Server come to mind).</p>
<p>But alas, our resident blogger isn&#8217;t a fan of Microsoft&#8217;s desktop offerings. That may change with Windows 7&#8217;s launch.</p>
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		<title>By: John Kind</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/02/06/three-reasons-windows-7-will-fail-on-netbooks/comment-page-1/#comment-98053</link>
		<dc:creator>John Kind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the whole microsoft world is awful.  I have to say one thing though, I have had many people tell me they don&#039;t know how to work Linux.  The one thing about Linux is that you have to know what you are doing to run it.  I can work Linux fine but I prefer apple products.  All my electronic devices such as phone and mp3 and computer are from apple.  I have the iPhone and iPod and mac so I mean I can tell you one thing is that apple can put out microsoft if they wanted to.  I have to say I think microsoft is hurting themselves with this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the whole microsoft world is awful.  I have to say one thing though, I have had many people tell me they don&#8217;t know how to work Linux.  The one thing about Linux is that you have to know what you are doing to run it.  I can work Linux fine but I prefer apple products.  All my electronic devices such as phone and mp3 and computer are from apple.  I have the iPhone and iPod and mac so I mean I can tell you one thing is that apple can put out microsoft if they wanted to.  I have to say I think microsoft is hurting themselves with this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron F.</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/02/06/three-reasons-windows-7-will-fail-on-netbooks/comment-page-1/#comment-95415</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lawrence D’Oliveiro @ #12...

Yes, I expect that most if not all Linux netbooks being overwritten with Windows XP are pirated installs.

14.6 million netbooks sold in 2008 ... 90% running Windows XP ... ok so 1.5 million sold running Linux. Maybe some of that covers the increase in Linux usage reported by Net Apps and W3C counters over the past year, or maybe some of that is also from Android usage:)

Nevertheless, once M$ begins pushing Windows 7 hard, I expect the percentage of Linux netbook sales to fall to 1%, not too far away from where Linux is sitting percentage-wise on desktop usage today.

Expectations of up to 35 million to be sold in 2009! If Linux manages to hold onto 1% of that - it will be an achievement.

Linux on phones and MID devices stands a better chance - the netbook is too much like a laptop for a paradigm shift in what people expect to see on such machines.

Me ... I am writing this on an old Dell D500 running Ubuntu 8.04. I run Linux at home and at work - just try to drag me back to Windows. Nothing would make me happier than to be proven to be a crotchety pessimist.

-Ron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lawrence D’Oliveiro @ #12&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, I expect that most if not all Linux netbooks being overwritten with Windows XP are pirated installs.</p>
<p>14.6 million netbooks sold in 2008 &#8230; 90% running Windows XP &#8230; ok so 1.5 million sold running Linux. Maybe some of that covers the increase in Linux usage reported by Net Apps and W3C counters over the past year, or maybe some of that is also from Android usage:)</p>
<p>Nevertheless, once M$ begins pushing Windows 7 hard, I expect the percentage of Linux netbook sales to fall to 1%, not too far away from where Linux is sitting percentage-wise on desktop usage today.</p>
<p>Expectations of up to 35 million to be sold in 2009! If Linux manages to hold onto 1% of that &#8211; it will be an achievement.</p>
<p>Linux on phones and MID devices stands a better chance &#8211; the netbook is too much like a laptop for a paradigm shift in what people expect to see on such machines.</p>
<p>Me &#8230; I am writing this on an old Dell D500 running Ubuntu 8.04. I run Linux at home and at work &#8211; just try to drag me back to Windows. Nothing would make me happier than to be proven to be a crotchety pessimist.</p>
<p>-Ron</p>
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		<title>By: The VAR Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/02/06/three-reasons-windows-7-will-fail-on-netbooks/comment-page-1/#comment-95393</link>
		<dc:creator>The VAR Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JohnnyD: You&#039;re welcome to post a comment any time on TheVARguy.com. But please, there&#039;s no need to yell. And by the way, your facts aren&#039;t quite right. In Microsoft&#039;s own official Windows blog &lt;a href=&quot;http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/archive/2009/02/04/a-closer-look-at-the-windows-7-skus.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the company says the following&lt;/a&gt;: 

&quot;Windows 7 Starter: Something that our OEM partners asked for is to have an offering for folks that will do very limited things with their PCs and for PCs with limited hardware capabilities. Windows 7 Starter only allows up to 3 applications to run at once. This is something that will be offered only through OEM partners.&quot;

In stark contrast, in the same Microsoft blog entry they say Windows 7 Home Basic is for value PCs in emerging markets.

Feel free to comment more. But please, no need to shout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JohnnyD: You&#8217;re welcome to post a comment any time on TheVARguy.com. But please, there&#8217;s no need to yell. And by the way, your facts aren&#8217;t quite right. In Microsoft&#8217;s own official Windows blog <a href="http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/archive/2009/02/04/a-closer-look-at-the-windows-7-skus.aspx" rel="nofollow">the company says the following</a>: </p>
<p>&#8220;Windows 7 Starter: Something that our OEM partners asked for is to have an offering for folks that will do very limited things with their PCs and for PCs with limited hardware capabilities. Windows 7 Starter only allows up to 3 applications to run at once. This is something that will be offered only through OEM partners.&#8221;</p>
<p>In stark contrast, in the same Microsoft blog entry they say Windows 7 Home Basic is for value PCs in emerging markets.</p>
<p>Feel free to comment more. But please, no need to shout.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnnyD</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/02/06/three-reasons-windows-7-will-fail-on-netbooks/comment-page-1/#comment-95392</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnnyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, the STARTER edition is for undeveloped countries, YOU WILL NOT SEE STARTER EDITION in USA or Europe, nor will you find it on Netbooks, so NO THREE APP LIMIT.

Completely false.  You shouldn&#039;t publish this until you know the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, the STARTER edition is for undeveloped countries, YOU WILL NOT SEE STARTER EDITION in USA or Europe, nor will you find it on Netbooks, so NO THREE APP LIMIT.</p>
<p>Completely false.  You shouldn&#8217;t publish this until you know the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: The VAR Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/02/06/three-reasons-windows-7-will-fail-on-netbooks/comment-page-1/#comment-95378</link>
		<dc:creator>The VAR Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert: You accurately point out that &quot;the use of your PC with GNU/Linux is only limited by your imagination.&quot; But that&#039;s both a blessing and a burden. The vast majority of PC users just want to surf the web, listen to music, check email or use an office suite. All of those functions certainly work on Linux -- and boy do they work well. But the average user doesn&#039;t want to go looking for drivers nor do they want to decide between user interfaces, etc.

Sometimes, a standard user interface for all isn&#039;t such a bad thing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert: You accurately point out that &#8220;the use of your PC with GNU/Linux is only limited by your imagination.&#8221; But that&#8217;s both a blessing and a burden. The vast majority of PC users just want to surf the web, listen to music, check email or use an office suite. All of those functions certainly work on Linux &#8212; and boy do they work well. But the average user doesn&#8217;t want to go looking for drivers nor do they want to decide between user interfaces, etc.</p>
<p>Sometimes, a standard user interface for all isn&#8217;t such a bad thing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Pogson</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/02/06/three-reasons-windows-7-will-fail-on-netbooks/comment-page-1/#comment-95277</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Pogson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The versatility of GNU/Linux on the desktop is unquestionable. While some favourite apps may be unavailable the universe of software in GNU/Linux keeps improving in variety and quality.

The notebook on which I write this has a LAMP stack with various PHP scripts giving me access by GUI to a dozen very useful databases. I even have a local snapshot of Wikipedia from a few years back, thousands of books indexed by SWISH-e, image databases, and then I get to regular desktop apps and finally BASH stuff. There are layers of utility in GNU/Linux while that other OS has layers of futility.

The use of your PC with GNU/Linux is only limited by your imagination. Go wild.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The versatility of GNU/Linux on the desktop is unquestionable. While some favourite apps may be unavailable the universe of software in GNU/Linux keeps improving in variety and quality.</p>
<p>The notebook on which I write this has a LAMP stack with various PHP scripts giving me access by GUI to a dozen very useful databases. I even have a local snapshot of Wikipedia from a few years back, thousands of books indexed by SWISH-e, image databases, and then I get to regular desktop apps and finally BASH stuff. There are layers of utility in GNU/Linux while that other OS has layers of futility.</p>
<p>The use of your PC with GNU/Linux is only limited by your imagination. Go wild.</p>
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		<title>By: machiner</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/02/06/three-reasons-windows-7-will-fail-on-netbooks/comment-page-1/#comment-95275</link>
		<dc:creator>machiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 15:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Eric wrote:

&quot;There are many little things about Linux on the desktop that just gets in the way of me getting things done. Besides the shell, the rest has some lacking.&quot;

I could not disagree with you more.  My Debian desktop neither gets in my way, ever, nor does it lack in any way.

I&#039;m just sayin&#039;...

machiner</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Eric wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;There are many little things about Linux on the desktop that just gets in the way of me getting things done. Besides the shell, the rest has some lacking.&#8221;</p>
<p>I could not disagree with you more.  My Debian desktop neither gets in my way, ever, nor does it lack in any way.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just sayin&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>machiner</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t normally bash Windows. I know, I&#039;m too kind! :))

However, the &#039;install&#039;, &#039;ease of use&#039; type of stuff annoys me.

I know few people who use computers who can install an OS - admit it, unless you work in the industry, most people you know are like this.

A friend of my s/father screwed his XP machine (who knows how) and his other &#039;computer savvy&#039; friend reinstalled it for him. This was a laptop using the install discs (so I believe). They got stuck on the wireless card - couldn&#039;t locate the drivers! Then he realised he couldn&#039;t open his old text documents...Office was installed when he bought...bit by bit he realised he was missing various drivers and applications. The conclusion was that he and his friend didn&#039;t know what to do and so rang my s/father.

Windows installed from scratch doesn&#039;t compare to many Linux distros installed from scratch. It&#039;s too obvious to deny. 

While this example wasn&#039;t a desktop, given a Windows install CD and a &#039;Nix install CD, most people would be up and running and PRODUCING immediately the hand-holding &#039;nix install was finished. They&#039;d spend ages FINDING things for their XP install before they could do anything useful with it.

I only wish MS could perfect it&#039;s anti-piracy projects - it would be the end of the Windows desktop dominance as we know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t normally bash Windows. I know, I&#8217;m too kind! <img src='http://www.thevarguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
<p>However, the &#8216;install&#8217;, &#8216;ease of use&#8217; type of stuff annoys me.</p>
<p>I know few people who use computers who can install an OS &#8211; admit it, unless you work in the industry, most people you know are like this.</p>
<p>A friend of my s/father screwed his XP machine (who knows how) and his other &#8216;computer savvy&#8217; friend reinstalled it for him. This was a laptop using the install discs (so I believe). They got stuck on the wireless card &#8211; couldn&#8217;t locate the drivers! Then he realised he couldn&#8217;t open his old text documents&#8230;Office was installed when he bought&#8230;bit by bit he realised he was missing various drivers and applications. The conclusion was that he and his friend didn&#8217;t know what to do and so rang my s/father.</p>
<p>Windows installed from scratch doesn&#8217;t compare to many Linux distros installed from scratch. It&#8217;s too obvious to deny. </p>
<p>While this example wasn&#8217;t a desktop, given a Windows install CD and a &#8216;Nix install CD, most people would be up and running and PRODUCING immediately the hand-holding &#8216;nix install was finished. They&#8217;d spend ages FINDING things for their XP install before they could do anything useful with it.</p>
<p>I only wish MS could perfect it&#8217;s anti-piracy projects &#8211; it would be the end of the Windows desktop dominance as we know it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence D'Oliveiro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence D'Oliveiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron F: “I suspect most people buying netbooks are quickly reinstalling with Windows XP.”

Out of interest, where would they be getting their copies of XP from? Because the OEM licence prohibits transferring it to another machine.

If people are putting pirated copies of Windows on their netbooks, that’s not going to be good for Microsoft’s already suffering bottom line, is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron F: “I suspect most people buying netbooks are quickly reinstalling with Windows XP.”</p>
<p>Out of interest, where would they be getting their copies of XP from? Because the OEM licence prohibits transferring it to another machine.</p>
<p>If people are putting pirated copies of Windows on their netbooks, that’s not going to be good for Microsoft’s already suffering bottom line, is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 04:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ROFLMFAO @ #8

Nice one BobCFC</description>
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<p>Nice one BobCFC</p>
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