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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft Responds to IBM&#8217;s Small Business Server Claims</title>
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		<title>By: The VAR Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/06/11/microsoft-responds-to-ibms-small-business-server-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-103520</link>
		<dc:creator>The VAR Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 02:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric@21: The VAR Guy certainly has some biases. But he always tries to disclose those biases so that readers can make informed decisions about his coverage, perspectives, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric@21: The VAR Guy certainly has some biases. But he always tries to disclose those biases so that readers can make informed decisions about his coverage, perspectives, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: David Lawrence</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/06/11/microsoft-responds-to-ibms-small-business-server-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-103515</link>
		<dc:creator>David Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post is in response to Cameron Gracie&#039;s on the ability to run Line of Business (&quot;LoB&quot;)applications.  Until earlier this year, we would deploy a Windows server next to the Lotus Foundation Appliance for those LoB apps that required it.  If this was an organization that already had a Windows server, we would move all of the WAN firewall, infrastructure (DHCP, DNS, ftp, VPN tunnel termination, domain and user management), file sharing and backup tasks to the Lotus Foundations Appliance and leave only the LoB app on the Windows server after making it a member server in the domain hosted by the Appliance.  For many LoB apps, they don&#039;t want you on the SBS server anyway.

Since about April of this year, IBM has offered a VMWare solution that runs in a virtual machine on the Lotus Foundations Appliance.  Depending on the application, this may be all that is required.  It really depends on the requirements of the application and the user activity on the server as well as the host processor, memory and disk space.  If you just need to host terminal server to provide RDC for a few remote clients and QuickBooks for a few staff members, they should run just fine in that environment.  Put shared data on the Lotus Foundation network file shares and it will be backed up to the integrated intelligent disk backup (idb) that uses hot-swappable hard drives so you can store copies of critical data off-site to avoid losing all your data in the event of a catastrophe (fire, flood, theft, hardware failure ...).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is in response to Cameron Gracie&#8217;s on the ability to run Line of Business (&#8220;LoB&#8221;)applications.  Until earlier this year, we would deploy a Windows server next to the Lotus Foundation Appliance for those LoB apps that required it.  If this was an organization that already had a Windows server, we would move all of the WAN firewall, infrastructure (DHCP, DNS, ftp, VPN tunnel termination, domain and user management), file sharing and backup tasks to the Lotus Foundations Appliance and leave only the LoB app on the Windows server after making it a member server in the domain hosted by the Appliance.  For many LoB apps, they don&#8217;t want you on the SBS server anyway.</p>
<p>Since about April of this year, IBM has offered a VMWare solution that runs in a virtual machine on the Lotus Foundations Appliance.  Depending on the application, this may be all that is required.  It really depends on the requirements of the application and the user activity on the server as well as the host processor, memory and disk space.  If you just need to host terminal server to provide RDC for a few remote clients and QuickBooks for a few staff members, they should run just fine in that environment.  Put shared data on the Lotus Foundation network file shares and it will be backed up to the integrated intelligent disk backup (idb) that uses hot-swappable hard drives so you can store copies of critical data off-site to avoid losing all your data in the event of a catastrophe (fire, flood, theft, hardware failure &#8230;).</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Thorsell</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/06/11/microsoft-responds-to-ibms-small-business-server-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-103513</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Thorsell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am both a loyal Microsoft Gold Partner and an IBM Advanced Business Partner, who exclusively sells SBS2008 running on IBM System X hardware.  Both companies have been great partners to me, and I would never hope to say something that denigrates the investments of time and treasure these guys make in my business.

Having said that, I have never sold Lotus Foundations but remain curious about it.  I&#039;m surprised that my fellow HTG&#039;ers are unfamiliar, as our HTG sponsor (IBM) had it on display during our January meeting.  Like I said, I&#039;m not selling it but it is a very compelling offering that I certainly wouldn&#039;t dismiss. 

I have no idea if IBM is having much traction with this product or not, nor do I really know how well SBS 2008 is doing...but I do respect both Microsoft and IBM and will continue to watch and learn about Foundations.  I appreciate the VarGuy&#039;s apparently-unbiased coverage that provides a great place to learn.  Thanks, VarGuy!

Erik Thorsell
Success Computer Consulting - Minneapolis, MN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am both a loyal Microsoft Gold Partner and an IBM Advanced Business Partner, who exclusively sells SBS2008 running on IBM System X hardware.  Both companies have been great partners to me, and I would never hope to say something that denigrates the investments of time and treasure these guys make in my business.</p>
<p>Having said that, I have never sold Lotus Foundations but remain curious about it.  I&#8217;m surprised that my fellow HTG&#8217;ers are unfamiliar, as our HTG sponsor (IBM) had it on display during our January meeting.  Like I said, I&#8217;m not selling it but it is a very compelling offering that I certainly wouldn&#8217;t dismiss. </p>
<p>I have no idea if IBM is having much traction with this product or not, nor do I really know how well SBS 2008 is doing&#8230;but I do respect both Microsoft and IBM and will continue to watch and learn about Foundations.  I appreciate the VarGuy&#8217;s apparently-unbiased coverage that provides a great place to learn.  Thanks, VarGuy!</p>
<p>Erik Thorsell<br />
Success Computer Consulting &#8211; Minneapolis, MN</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Gracie</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/06/11/microsoft-responds-to-ibms-small-business-server-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-103512</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron Gracie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So where do you put their Line of Business (LoB) Apps? All the things that Lotus Foundations does have been around in &#039;single box linux&#039; servers for years (some have even included Asterisk for phone capabilities), and yet Linux is still not the premier platform for SMBs. All this debate misses the one fundamental aspect of SMBs, they often have LoB applications that must be addressed and the majority of these apps run on Windows. Good or bad, that is simply the fact of the matter. If you have to run Windows for your LoB applications, then it just keeps your environment easier to support if it is all Windows. Getting support from the LoB vendors certainly will be easier (which SMBs REALLY care about). To really gain market share, Lotus Foundations needs to have a complementary community that includes application developers that can deliver leading applications that SMBs want to run (and in the end make money with). Without this, it won&#039;t matter if Lotus Foundations is technically better. The SMB client only cares that their OVERALL IT infrastructure helps them to generate profits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So where do you put their Line of Business (LoB) Apps? All the things that Lotus Foundations does have been around in &#8216;single box linux&#8217; servers for years (some have even included Asterisk for phone capabilities), and yet Linux is still not the premier platform for SMBs. All this debate misses the one fundamental aspect of SMBs, they often have LoB applications that must be addressed and the majority of these apps run on Windows. Good or bad, that is simply the fact of the matter. If you have to run Windows for your LoB applications, then it just keeps your environment easier to support if it is all Windows. Getting support from the LoB vendors certainly will be easier (which SMBs REALLY care about). To really gain market share, Lotus Foundations needs to have a complementary community that includes application developers that can deliver leading applications that SMBs want to run (and in the end make money with). Without this, it won&#8217;t matter if Lotus Foundations is technically better. The SMB client only cares that their OVERALL IT infrastructure helps them to generate profits.</p>
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		<title>By: The VAR Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/06/11/microsoft-responds-to-ibms-small-business-server-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-103459</link>
		<dc:creator>The VAR Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael: Small Business Server certainly has a loyal VAR following, but The VAR Guy must concede ... he&#039;s impressed to see Lotus Foundations solutions providers offering such upbeat statements about IBM&#039;s strategy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael: Small Business Server certainly has a loyal VAR following, but The VAR Guy must concede &#8230; he&#8217;s impressed to see Lotus Foundations solutions providers offering such upbeat statements about IBM&#8217;s strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Freudman</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/06/11/microsoft-responds-to-ibms-small-business-server-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-103455</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Freudman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can you compare a server to a true appliance?  The Lotus Foundations box has no keyboard, no monitor, no mouse and it is truly plug it in and turn it on appliance for SMB.  This is like comparing a iphone to an old rotary dial phone.  Simply put... the days of deploying servers in small businesses are coming to an end quickly and there are going to be two type of small business partners - those that adopt appliances and SAS and those that are no longer in business.

Trust me on this... if I&#039;m pitching a Lotus Foundations box going up against another partner pitching a SBS server I will not loose.  I have way more margin to play with on Lotus Foundations.  For those that are just learning of Lotus Foundations in this thread... suggest you get up to speed fast, this is a game changer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can you compare a server to a true appliance?  The Lotus Foundations box has no keyboard, no monitor, no mouse and it is truly plug it in and turn it on appliance for SMB.  This is like comparing a iphone to an old rotary dial phone.  Simply put&#8230; the days of deploying servers in small businesses are coming to an end quickly and there are going to be two type of small business partners &#8211; those that adopt appliances and SAS and those that are no longer in business.</p>
<p>Trust me on this&#8230; if I&#8217;m pitching a Lotus Foundations box going up against another partner pitching a SBS server I will not loose.  I have way more margin to play with on Lotus Foundations.  For those that are just learning of Lotus Foundations in this thread&#8230; suggest you get up to speed fast, this is a game changer.</p>
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		<title>By: The VAR Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/06/11/microsoft-responds-to-ibms-small-business-server-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-103447</link>
		<dc:creator>The VAR Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayne: Thanks for the view from down under. The VAR Guy was in Australia in October 2008, where he learned Australia is the number one country for Microsoft Small Business Server, in terms of per capita deployments (or some metric like that...).

Still, you need to be educating customers about the solutions you recommend -- regardless of the supplying vendor. If somebody builds a better mouse trap, would you keep selling the old mouse trap?

Not saying that&#039;s the case with Microsoft vs. IBM/Lotus. Just food for thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne: Thanks for the view from down under. The VAR Guy was in Australia in October 2008, where he learned Australia is the number one country for Microsoft Small Business Server, in terms of per capita deployments (or some metric like that&#8230;).</p>
<p>Still, you need to be educating customers about the solutions you recommend &#8212; regardless of the supplying vendor. If somebody builds a better mouse trap, would you keep selling the old mouse trap?</p>
<p>Not saying that&#8217;s the case with Microsoft vs. IBM/Lotus. Just food for thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Small</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/06/11/microsoft-responds-to-ibms-small-business-server-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-103443</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne Small</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok - here in Australia, the only news of the IBM offering we are hearing right now is coming from the US.  Clients are after a Microsoft solution. love it or not, the clients KNOW that they can build their business on Microsoft product. It&#039;s easier to help the clients with something they already have some idea about than breaking them into something new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok &#8211; here in Australia, the only news of the IBM offering we are hearing right now is coming from the US.  Clients are after a Microsoft solution. love it or not, the clients KNOW that they can build their business on Microsoft product. It&#8217;s easier to help the clients with something they already have some idea about than breaking them into something new.</p>
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		<title>By: The VAR Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/06/11/microsoft-responds-to-ibms-small-business-server-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-103437</link>
		<dc:creator>The VAR Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, Daniel: The VAR Guy thanks you for offering an in-depth view on Lotus Foundations. Please keep our readers posted as you evaluate additional deployments. Our resident blogger doesn&#039;t claim to have your hands-on expertise...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, Daniel: The VAR Guy thanks you for offering an in-depth view on Lotus Foundations. Please keep our readers posted as you evaluate additional deployments. Our resident blogger doesn&#8217;t claim to have your hands-on expertise&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Bombard</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/06/11/microsoft-responds-to-ibms-small-business-server-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-103436</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Bombard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Lotus Foundations provider. I started as a Net Integration partner and loved the ease of deployment. I was a huge fan of MS SBS until I tried out the &quot;different&quot; server. Oddly enough I can have an entire company up and running with email and everything else equivalent to Active Directory plus backp in an hour or less. Try doing that with SBS. Our company is running the product and love it. Now that I can also run VMware I can run virtually any application and have better security without use of an external firewall, router,  antivirus and spam filtering, it is all built right in. All in all it is a great deal and a great system.

Daniel Bombard
Systems Admin
Yuma Office Equipment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Lotus Foundations provider. I started as a Net Integration partner and loved the ease of deployment. I was a huge fan of MS SBS until I tried out the &#8220;different&#8221; server. Oddly enough I can have an entire company up and running with email and everything else equivalent to Active Directory plus backp in an hour or less. Try doing that with SBS. Our company is running the product and love it. Now that I can also run VMware I can run virtually any application and have better security without use of an external firewall, router,  antivirus and spam filtering, it is all built right in. All in all it is a great deal and a great system.</p>
<p>Daniel Bombard<br />
Systems Admin<br />
Yuma Office Equipment</p>
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		<title>By: David Lawrence</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/06/11/microsoft-responds-to-ibms-small-business-server-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-103435</link>
		<dc:creator>David Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of comments, mostly opinion, a few assumptions and very little fact.  As a five year VAR of Nitix and now Lotus Foundations, if a VAR is waiting for a customer to ask about a solution by product name, how much of a trusted advisor are you?  

The Lotus Foundations Appliance includes everything required to run a small business or non-profit organization in the box.  That includes backup with hot swappable hard drives.  The entire OS in Flash (updated via a 3 minute download) 

Dual WAN ports for automatic network failover.  Combined with built in Dynamic DNS with a private multi-DNS server network for customers, an ISP failure is automatically detected and the backup ISP is on line automatically.  No separate router required or maual effort required.  Lotus Notes replication allows you to continue to work remotely with no VPN required or even off-line.  

Lotus Notes is an application development environment.  There is an entire world of apps hosted on Notes and the databases it can replicate to client systems.  It isn&#039;t Outlook and Exchange.  It is different. But get some facts.  

Five years ago we put our small business on the forerunner to Lotus Foundations and found it much easier to manage than SBS (which we removed to make way for the appliance then known as the Net Integrator running Nitix).  

With the autonomics built into Lotus Foundations, deploying a new service like ftp is a single click.  That starts the service, opens a hole in the firewall and registers the DNS name.  Add user access to ftp with another click.

It&#039;s not for everyone, but it works well for a number of organizations in the under 100 user environment and when you start pricing all of the features versus a Windows-based system, you&#039;ll spend less to acquire a Lotus Foundations Appliance and spend less to maintain it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of comments, mostly opinion, a few assumptions and very little fact.  As a five year VAR of Nitix and now Lotus Foundations, if a VAR is waiting for a customer to ask about a solution by product name, how much of a trusted advisor are you?  </p>
<p>The Lotus Foundations Appliance includes everything required to run a small business or non-profit organization in the box.  That includes backup with hot swappable hard drives.  The entire OS in Flash (updated via a 3 minute download) </p>
<p>Dual WAN ports for automatic network failover.  Combined with built in Dynamic DNS with a private multi-DNS server network for customers, an ISP failure is automatically detected and the backup ISP is on line automatically.  No separate router required or maual effort required.  Lotus Notes replication allows you to continue to work remotely with no VPN required or even off-line.  </p>
<p>Lotus Notes is an application development environment.  There is an entire world of apps hosted on Notes and the databases it can replicate to client systems.  It isn&#8217;t Outlook and Exchange.  It is different. But get some facts.  </p>
<p>Five years ago we put our small business on the forerunner to Lotus Foundations and found it much easier to manage than SBS (which we removed to make way for the appliance then known as the Net Integrator running Nitix).  </p>
<p>With the autonomics built into Lotus Foundations, deploying a new service like ftp is a single click.  That starts the service, opens a hole in the firewall and registers the DNS name.  Add user access to ftp with another click.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not for everyone, but it works well for a number of organizations in the under 100 user environment and when you start pricing all of the features versus a Windows-based system, you&#8217;ll spend less to acquire a Lotus Foundations Appliance and spend less to maintain it.</p>
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		<title>By: The VAR Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/06/11/microsoft-responds-to-ibms-small-business-server-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-103416</link>
		<dc:creator>The VAR Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad: Thanks for adding your voice to the conversation. The VAR Guy will keep an eye on Bralin Technology Solutions going forward.

And to your point about Open Source: Our resident blogger is still waiting to see a true open source alternative that&#039;s widely considered a head-on rival against Small Business Server. No doubt, Linux and LAMP have server momentum -- but not really in the classic small business market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad: Thanks for adding your voice to the conversation. The VAR Guy will keep an eye on Bralin Technology Solutions going forward.</p>
<p>And to your point about Open Source: Our resident blogger is still waiting to see a true open source alternative that&#8217;s widely considered a head-on rival against Small Business Server. No doubt, Linux and LAMP have server momentum &#8212; but not really in the classic small business market.</p>
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