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	<title>Comments on: Google&#8217;s Chrome Operating System Strategy: Top 5 Questions</title>
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		<title>By: SJGooch</title>
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		<dc:creator>SJGooch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 07:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Title:  Web-based spreadsheet?

I have a Chrome web-based architecture question:

I am considering a project which requires greater user input facility than is available in competing browsers.  As a gedanken, imagine that I wish to build a website-resident spreadsheet using Chrome as the (remote) front-end.  A large &quot;unprotected field&quot;-style &quot;pre-packaged&quot; passive text editor input box just won&#039;t do.  I need hundreds of small, intelligent, algorithmically-generated and algorithmically-located input fields in the spreadsheet layout which I will display and access through Chrome.  And I need to guide and give the user immediate feedback as she types each character.  In this model, the type of feedback is unique to each type of spreadsheet cell, and may also depend on the cell&#039;s previously-input content.  If there is a convenient way to implement this complex mode of user-input using Chrome or Chrome extensions, my project is a &quot;go.&quot;

What are the best Chrome tools to use to implement such a distributed spreadsheet?  If such facilities do not yet exist in Chrome, do you foresee a solution in the near future?

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<p>I have a Chrome web-based architecture question:</p>
<p>I am considering a project which requires greater user input facility than is available in competing browsers.  As a gedanken, imagine that I wish to build a website-resident spreadsheet using Chrome as the (remote) front-end.  A large &#8220;unprotected field&#8221;-style &#8220;pre-packaged&#8221; passive text editor input box just won&#8217;t do.  I need hundreds of small, intelligent, algorithmically-generated and algorithmically-located input fields in the spreadsheet layout which I will display and access through Chrome.  And I need to guide and give the user immediate feedback as she types each character.  In this model, the type of feedback is unique to each type of spreadsheet cell, and may also depend on the cell&#8217;s previously-input content.  If there is a convenient way to implement this complex mode of user-input using Chrome or Chrome extensions, my project is a &#8220;go.&#8221;</p>
<p>What are the best Chrome tools to use to implement such a distributed spreadsheet?  If such facilities do not yet exist in Chrome, do you foresee a solution in the near future?</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: The VAR Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/07/08/googles-chrome-operating-system-strategy-top-5-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-104037</link>
		<dc:creator>The VAR Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Storagepipe: The news is never old if you manage to sprinkle in a new perspective or a new viewpoint. Curious to see who really gets abused once Chrome OS launches...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Storagepipe: The news is never old if you manage to sprinkle in a new perspective or a new viewpoint. Curious to see who really gets abused once Chrome OS launches&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Storagepipe</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/07/08/googles-chrome-operating-system-strategy-top-5-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-104034</link>
		<dc:creator>Storagepipe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was reading on CNet that Bill Gates has some strong opinions on Chrome: 

&quot;There&#039;s many, many forms of Linux operating systems out there and packaged in different ways and booted in different ways,&quot; .... &quot;In large part, it&#039;s more an abuse of terminology than a real change.&quot; 

(This is probably old news by now, of course)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reading on CNet that Bill Gates has some strong opinions on Chrome: </p>
<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s many, many forms of Linux operating systems out there and packaged in different ways and booted in different ways,&#8221; &#8230;. &#8220;In large part, it&#8217;s more an abuse of terminology than a real change.&#8221; </p>
<p>(This is probably old news by now, of course)</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s about effective distribution of remote functionality and not about any OS functions in the traditional sense of the word. The ratio between Microsoft&#039;s TCO/support cost and it&#039;s actual fat desktop functionality has thrunk enough that CTO will undoubtedly see the vision the cloud will funnel through to the Enterprise. Desktops as we see them hold a monumental amount of wasted and unused functionality, a whole lot of CPU power and complexity merely to run productivity, mapped storage, printers and server hosted apps. Go Google - Windows sucks ass and IT like me should know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about effective distribution of remote functionality and not about any OS functions in the traditional sense of the word. The ratio between Microsoft&#8217;s TCO/support cost and it&#8217;s actual fat desktop functionality has thrunk enough that CTO will undoubtedly see the vision the cloud will funnel through to the Enterprise. Desktops as we see them hold a monumental amount of wasted and unused functionality, a whole lot of CPU power and complexity merely to run productivity, mapped storage, printers and server hosted apps. Go Google &#8211; Windows sucks ass and IT like me should know.</p>
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		<title>By: adam hartung</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam hartung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Google would go after this new business surprises only those that don&#039;t understand Google.  Industrial-era thinkers believe you should &quot;stick to your focus&quot;.  Like GM.  But Google knows that in an information economy if you don&#039;t keep moving into new markets with new technologies looking for more revenues you won&#039;t survive.  Read more at http://www.ThePhoenixPrinciple.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Google would go after this new business surprises only those that don&#8217;t understand Google.  Industrial-era thinkers believe you should &#8220;stick to your focus&#8221;.  Like GM.  But Google knows that in an information economy if you don&#8217;t keep moving into new markets with new technologies looking for more revenues you won&#8217;t survive.  Read more at <a href="http://www.ThePhoenixPrinciple.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ThePhoenixPrinciple.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2pts to NetApex for the Solient Green reference.

The netbook market is quite small, M$ will do all in its power to quash this, and PC makers will do everything they can to leverage this against M$.  

All the while Ubuntu server will continue to win the hearts and minds of IT managers everywhere due to its ease of use, cost and reliability.</description>
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<p>The netbook market is quite small, M$ will do all in its power to quash this, and PC makers will do everything they can to leverage this against M$.  </p>
<p>All the while Ubuntu server will continue to win the hearts and minds of IT managers everywhere due to its ease of use, cost and reliability.</p>
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		<title>By: The VAR Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>The VAR Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fstephens: Agreed, netbooks aren&#039;t a major force in the traditional channel. But they are a growing force in the service provider channel, where big broadband providers and cellular providers offer up the devices with service contracts. Watch for that trend to accelerate as MSPs experiment with Hardware as a Service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fstephens: Agreed, netbooks aren&#8217;t a major force in the traditional channel. But they are a growing force in the service provider channel, where big broadband providers and cellular providers offer up the devices with service contracts. Watch for that trend to accelerate as MSPs experiment with Hardware as a Service.</p>
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		<title>By: fstephens</title>
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		<dc:creator>fstephens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much penetration have Netbooks made in the channel anyway? I don&#039;t know, but I see this as consumer oriented. Nevertheless if Google can get the OEM&#039;s behind them it could succeed. And that would be good for Linux in general. Just getting more people to try something different is a plus, and some of the code will be picked up by other distros and improve the whole base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much penetration have Netbooks made in the channel anyway? I don&#8217;t know, but I see this as consumer oriented. Nevertheless if Google can get the OEM&#8217;s behind them it could succeed. And that would be good for Linux in general. Just getting more people to try something different is a plus, and some of the code will be picked up by other distros and improve the whole base.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basically, it is great news that Google is doing this. Nobody can see where this will go, but I believe we can say something about the effects.

Google of course wants to get big in cloud computing. And it knows that MS will never really throw their weight behind that concept, and if they do, they will make sure to create their own closed implementation of it. Linux distros are still based on the traditional desktop paradigm and have not enough clout to push the cloud (pun intended).

So: using their ultra strong brand name, Google will release a &#039;web OS&#039;: a light weight OS that allows you to use web services. Now I know that not all current desktop apps (image, sound, video processing, games etc) can be web apps. But that is not the point. Point is that 90% of all desktop work is something that can be done with light weight apps: Google (Gear) apps. 

Just because it is called &#039;Google&#039;, people will take it seriously, will accept it is not Windows, and will consider it a valuable asset for their work or hobbies. 

Google will obviously make sure to have seamless links between their web apps and strong desktop apps (think of the Exchange integration), and will make sure to use document formats that allow desktop and netbook to operate together.

So: we are going to get an even more blurry personal computing landscape. And Linux will organically profit from that. Not only because Chrome OS is Linux, but especially because Open Source development will get a gigantic boost. Very interesting hybrids will start to be developed, that can operate in the cloud and stand alone. 

Right now, if you cannot integrate with MS, you are doomed to remain in the niche. Very soon, if you cannot integrate in the cloud, you can shake it. In other words: MS&#039;s stronghold will soon become obsolete, since nobody cares about a closed environment anymore, but rather wants to be able to work seamlessly within and without the cloud.

Google is starting to initiate a paradigm shift. That will undeoubtedly mean the demise of many distros as we know them. But it will at the same time mean a frantic development on top of the Linux platform of news apps and infrastructures, taking place within a strong Open Source context. If that can be achieved, the goal of the FOSS community will be achieved. Maybe in a different incarnation that some people envisioned, but who cares. After all: it is not the strongest of species that survive, but the ones most responsive to change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basically, it is great news that Google is doing this. Nobody can see where this will go, but I believe we can say something about the effects.</p>
<p>Google of course wants to get big in cloud computing. And it knows that MS will never really throw their weight behind that concept, and if they do, they will make sure to create their own closed implementation of it. Linux distros are still based on the traditional desktop paradigm and have not enough clout to push the cloud (pun intended).</p>
<p>So: using their ultra strong brand name, Google will release a &#8216;web OS&#8217;: a light weight OS that allows you to use web services. Now I know that not all current desktop apps (image, sound, video processing, games etc) can be web apps. But that is not the point. Point is that 90% of all desktop work is something that can be done with light weight apps: Google (Gear) apps. </p>
<p>Just because it is called &#8216;Google&#8217;, people will take it seriously, will accept it is not Windows, and will consider it a valuable asset for their work or hobbies. </p>
<p>Google will obviously make sure to have seamless links between their web apps and strong desktop apps (think of the Exchange integration), and will make sure to use document formats that allow desktop and netbook to operate together.</p>
<p>So: we are going to get an even more blurry personal computing landscape. And Linux will organically profit from that. Not only because Chrome OS is Linux, but especially because Open Source development will get a gigantic boost. Very interesting hybrids will start to be developed, that can operate in the cloud and stand alone. </p>
<p>Right now, if you cannot integrate with MS, you are doomed to remain in the niche. Very soon, if you cannot integrate in the cloud, you can shake it. In other words: MS&#8217;s stronghold will soon become obsolete, since nobody cares about a closed environment anymore, but rather wants to be able to work seamlessly within and without the cloud.</p>
<p>Google is starting to initiate a paradigm shift. That will undeoubtedly mean the demise of many distros as we know them. But it will at the same time mean a frantic development on top of the Linux platform of news apps and infrastructures, taking place within a strong Open Source context. If that can be achieved, the goal of the FOSS community will be achieved. Maybe in a different incarnation that some people envisioned, but who cares. After all: it is not the strongest of species that survive, but the ones most responsive to change.</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An OS with most apps working from the web is the worst kind of OS I would like to get, but it&#039;s the best one for Big Brother and his NSA/FBI/whatever friends and also for the naive folks out there who don&#039;t get the full picture and are dreaming in the &quot;clouds&quot; which ironically should be called &quot;jails&quot; since everything is controlled by Big Brother (i.e. content/privacy info is deleted not when you want, but when Big Brother wants).
Not to mention that apps development using JavaScript is and will be in the near future like &quot;nailing extra legs to a dog and calling it an octopus&quot;. I&#039;m doing web &amp; desktop development for several years, if you too then you know what I mean.
Now to the point:
1) Google and vendors clearly let us know that Android is no good for PCs and netbooks. That means Google was too naive about its OS.
2) Google is much smaller than the Linux ecosystem (IBM,etc, etc), plus having a distro like Moblin released before the Chrome OS makes Chrome OS look like a really isolated stack.
So far we have the &quot;Vista/Longhorn&quot; effect, lots of promise and fantasies from a big company and speculations in the userland about an OS that doesn&#039;t even exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An OS with most apps working from the web is the worst kind of OS I would like to get, but it&#8217;s the best one for Big Brother and his NSA/FBI/whatever friends and also for the naive folks out there who don&#8217;t get the full picture and are dreaming in the &#8220;clouds&#8221; which ironically should be called &#8220;jails&#8221; since everything is controlled by Big Brother (i.e. content/privacy info is deleted not when you want, but when Big Brother wants).<br />
Not to mention that apps development using JavaScript is and will be in the near future like &#8220;nailing extra legs to a dog and calling it an octopus&#8221;. I&#8217;m doing web &amp; desktop development for several years, if you too then you know what I mean.<br />
Now to the point:<br />
1) Google and vendors clearly let us know that Android is no good for PCs and netbooks. That means Google was too naive about its OS.<br />
2) Google is much smaller than the Linux ecosystem (IBM,etc, etc), plus having a distro like Moblin released before the Chrome OS makes Chrome OS look like a really isolated stack.<br />
So far we have the &#8220;Vista/Longhorn&#8221; effect, lots of promise and fantasies from a big company and speculations in the userland about an OS that doesn&#8217;t even exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Is Google Stealing Ubuntu’s Thunder? &#124; hallowdemon.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is Google Stealing Ubuntu’s Thunder? &#124; hallowdemon.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] system &#8212; called Google Chrome OS &#8212; designed for Netbooks. Dell and Hewlett-Packard say they are interested in the operating system. Plus, many netbook providers were already taking a close look at Google [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] system &#8212; called Google Chrome OS &#8212; designed for Netbooks. Dell and Hewlett-Packard say they are interested in the operating system. Plus, many netbook providers were already taking a close look at Google [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The VAR Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/07/08/googles-chrome-operating-system-strategy-top-5-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-103851</link>
		<dc:creator>The VAR Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Readers: The VAR Guy wants to thank you for filling in many of the blanks. Our resident blogger is getting a clearer picture of where Google will play with Chrome OS. 

There still seems to be some overlap between Android and Chrome OS... ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Readers: The VAR Guy wants to thank you for filling in many of the blanks. Our resident blogger is getting a clearer picture of where Google will play with Chrome OS. </p>
<p>There still seems to be some overlap between Android and Chrome OS&#8230; &#8230;</p>
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