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	<title>Comments on: How Chrome OS Will Help Ubuntu</title>
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		<title>By: Pithikos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pithikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 15:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see the point that consumers should have Ubuntu. I myself put Ubuntu at my mom&#039;s and sister&#039;s computer and I have to tell you.. It&#039;s NOTHING good for no-tech people. The usual user wants to download a program to the desktop, doubleclick it and then it should install all by itself automatically. No manual handlers and crap. With Ubuntu just installing the driver for the WiFi was a murder. Not because there wasn&#039;t a driver but because there was too much manual tweeking(blacklisting and so on). And guess what! Two weeks later my mom clicked on the user-friendly &quot;Update&quot; and a new kernel was installed but then the WiFi was lost! Do you think that usual folks want to sit for hours figuring out how to fix what is broken? People want things just to work, be minimal, easy to use! That&#039;s excactly where all Linux distributions were fatal and that&#039;s what Chrome OS is offering!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see the point that consumers should have Ubuntu. I myself put Ubuntu at my mom&#8217;s and sister&#8217;s computer and I have to tell you.. It&#8217;s NOTHING good for no-tech people. The usual user wants to download a program to the desktop, doubleclick it and then it should install all by itself automatically. No manual handlers and crap. With Ubuntu just installing the driver for the WiFi was a murder. Not because there wasn&#8217;t a driver but because there was too much manual tweeking(blacklisting and so on). And guess what! Two weeks later my mom clicked on the user-friendly &#8220;Update&#8221; and a new kernel was installed but then the WiFi was lost! Do you think that usual folks want to sit for hours figuring out how to fix what is broken? People want things just to work, be minimal, easy to use! That&#8217;s excactly where all Linux distributions were fatal and that&#8217;s what Chrome OS is offering!</p>
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		<title>By: Jef Spaleta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jef Spaleta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan:

Apple has proven that you don&#039;t have to win over the masses to build a profitable software/hardware ecosystem.  It&#039;s okay to be niche...as long as you cultivate a customer-base that is willing to pay a premium for advantages your niche platform brings compared to what Microsoft is offering. Apple is sitting at something like 10% of computer sales..and that&#039;s perfectly okay...because its a profitable venture.  Apple doesn&#039;t have to be the dominate vendor.. they have a loyal following willing to pay cash for products and services that sustains the software and hardware development Apple does.  More importantly that loyal customer based influences other people to _buy_ Apple&#039;s products and services...something Canonical doesn&#039;t have in its Ubuntu userbase.


Google revenue strategy is pretty obvious to figure out.  Control a segment of the mobile operating system market and drive more people to their already profitable advertising dollar supported services like search.  Google&#039;s search revenue is their strength...and their operating system developments reinforce that strength as well as building outward from it into potentially new revenue areas. Google has a well understood profitable core business.

Canonical&#039;s revenue strategy is far less clear as Canonical doesn&#039;t have an existing revenue stream that can be called a strength. For Canonical...5 years into their business plan... everything they are doing still seems like an experiment.. there is no core business. Nothing has solidified as a revenue stream strong enough for them to build outward from.  That&#039;s a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan:</p>
<p>Apple has proven that you don&#8217;t have to win over the masses to build a profitable software/hardware ecosystem.  It&#8217;s okay to be niche&#8230;as long as you cultivate a customer-base that is willing to pay a premium for advantages your niche platform brings compared to what Microsoft is offering. Apple is sitting at something like 10% of computer sales..and that&#8217;s perfectly okay&#8230;because its a profitable venture.  Apple doesn&#8217;t have to be the dominate vendor.. they have a loyal following willing to pay cash for products and services that sustains the software and hardware development Apple does.  More importantly that loyal customer based influences other people to _buy_ Apple&#8217;s products and services&#8230;something Canonical doesn&#8217;t have in its Ubuntu userbase.</p>
<p>Google revenue strategy is pretty obvious to figure out.  Control a segment of the mobile operating system market and drive more people to their already profitable advertising dollar supported services like search.  Google&#8217;s search revenue is their strength&#8230;and their operating system developments reinforce that strength as well as building outward from it into potentially new revenue areas. Google has a well understood profitable core business.</p>
<p>Canonical&#8217;s revenue strategy is far less clear as Canonical doesn&#8217;t have an existing revenue stream that can be called a strength. For Canonical&#8230;5 years into their business plan&#8230; everything they are doing still seems like an experiment.. there is no core business. Nothing has solidified as a revenue stream strong enough for them to build outward from.  That&#8217;s a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Ballance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Ballance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there are a growing number of pro-Google eco-system inhabitants that will enjoy Chrome OS. It will give them easy and fine-tuned access to their Google services, perhaps in combination with their Android phone.

Whilst I agree that Chrome OS is unlikely to win over the Windows masses just yet, I suspect it will consolidate their hardcore users, giving them a netbook and a smart phone with which to consume Google services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are a growing number of pro-Google eco-system inhabitants that will enjoy Chrome OS. It will give them easy and fine-tuned access to their Google services, perhaps in combination with their Android phone.</p>
<p>Whilst I agree that Chrome OS is unlikely to win over the Windows masses just yet, I suspect it will consolidate their hardcore users, giving them a netbook and a smart phone with which to consume Google services.</p>
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		<title>By: LAS</title>
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		<dc:creator>LAS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the top three will be Chrome, Moblin and Ubuntu. Good things happening for Chrome will only benefit Linux in general. The Linux kernel is already awesome in hardware support and advancements will come at an even faster rate with the spotlight finally on Linux netbooks. Windows is still going to dominate for a long time but the consumer will start to understand that there is choice in the marketplace. Chrome and others will be hard to beat for security, performance and Internet style computing.
*This consumer buys nothing anymore &quot;made for Windows&quot;. MSI Wind &quot;Suse Enterprise Desktop&quot; running Ubuntu Jaunty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the top three will be Chrome, Moblin and Ubuntu. Good things happening for Chrome will only benefit Linux in general. The Linux kernel is already awesome in hardware support and advancements will come at an even faster rate with the spotlight finally on Linux netbooks. Windows is still going to dominate for a long time but the consumer will start to understand that there is choice in the marketplace. Chrome and others will be hard to beat for security, performance and Internet style computing.<br />
*This consumer buys nothing anymore &#8220;made for Windows&#8221;. MSI Wind &#8220;Suse Enterprise Desktop&#8221; running Ubuntu Jaunty.</p>
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		<title>By: penguin386</title>
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		<dc:creator>penguin386</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Chrome OS will help Ubuntu.  XP users will be forced to switch to something else as soon as Microsoft releases Windows 7 service pack 1.  That is supposedly the End of Lifecycle for Windows XP.  Vista wasn&#039;t exactly an XP killer, but Microsoft wants to try to kill XP again with Windows 7.  Alternatives like Chrome OS, Ubuntu, ANY Linux or even a Mac will be good choices if Windows 7 is a fiasco like Vista.  The day that XP dies could be the day that Microsoft dies.  Hasta la Vista, Baby!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Chrome OS will help Ubuntu.  XP users will be forced to switch to something else as soon as Microsoft releases Windows 7 service pack 1.  That is supposedly the End of Lifecycle for Windows XP.  Vista wasn&#8217;t exactly an XP killer, but Microsoft wants to try to kill XP again with Windows 7.  Alternatives like Chrome OS, Ubuntu, ANY Linux or even a Mac will be good choices if Windows 7 is a fiasco like Vista.  The day that XP dies could be the day that Microsoft dies.  Hasta la Vista, Baby!</p>
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		<title>By: julian</title>
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		<dc:creator>julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I understand the announcement of Chrome OS well it will will be a linux kernel with the Chrome webbrowser on it. And it will only be able to run webapps. That seams to me something very different than a linux distribution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I understand the announcement of Chrome OS well it will will be a linux kernel with the Chrome webbrowser on it. And it will only be able to run webapps. That seams to me something very different than a linux distribution.</p>
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		<title>By: Geekyboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geekyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.  I agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.  I agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Daeng Bo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daeng Bo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed that Linux lost the netbook war has been obvious for a while ( from March -- http://blog.ibeentoubuntu.com/2009/03/linux-lost-netbook-war.html ).

Chrome, however, may offer a better integration of services than the awful stuff Linpus and Xandros did, getting over the consumer&#039;s distrust of change. Purchasers of Chrome netbooks will also likely already be big users of Google services, meaning that the applications they want WILL be available ... through the Chrome browser.

I suspect that Chrome OS will raise the Linux tide and all Linux boats will rise because of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed that Linux lost the netbook war has been obvious for a while ( from March &#8212; <a href="http://blog.ibeentoubuntu.com/2009/03/linux-lost-netbook-war.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.ibeentoubuntu.com/2009/03/linux-lost-netbook-war.html</a> ).</p>
<p>Chrome, however, may offer a better integration of services than the awful stuff Linpus and Xandros did, getting over the consumer&#8217;s distrust of change. Purchasers of Chrome netbooks will also likely already be big users of Google services, meaning that the applications they want WILL be available &#8230; through the Chrome browser.</p>
<p>I suspect that Chrome OS will raise the Linux tide and all Linux boats will rise because of that.</p>
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		<title>By: LUP 01: Introduction to Linux and Ubuntu &#124; Linux User Podcast</title>
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		<dc:creator>LUP 01: Introduction to Linux and Ubuntu &#124; Linux User Podcast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/10/intel_google_chrome_os/ http://www.workswithu.com/2009/07/10/how-chrome-os-will-help-ubuntu/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/10/intel_google_chrome_os/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/10/intel_google_chrome_os/</a> <a href="http://www.workswithu.com/2009/07/10/how-chrome-os-will-help-ubuntu/" rel="nofollow">http://www.workswithu.com/2009/07/10/how-chrome-os-will-help-ubuntu/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Unbiased Product Reviews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unbiased Product Reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But if people use Chrome and it works the way they need it as marketed, there will be no need to check out Ubuntu. And the average consumer won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But if people use Chrome and it works the way they need it as marketed, there will be no need to check out Ubuntu. And the average consumer won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris B. &#8211; idéias e pensamentos &#187; Google Chrome OS &#8211; o que você fará?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris B. &#8211; idéias e pensamentos &#187; Google Chrome OS &#8211; o que você fará?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fortalecer o conceito de que Linux não é só para os geeks e, com isso, abrir novas portas (veja esse post a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fortalecer o conceito de que Linux não é só para os geeks e, com isso, abrir novas portas (veja esse post a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jef Spaleta</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/07/10/how-chrome-os-will-help-ubuntu/comment-page-1/#comment-118368</link>
		<dc:creator>Jef Spaleta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ooboo:

The cat definitely out of the bag. But you shouldn&#039;t be surprised that most people haven&#039;t noticed that fact.  The alarm factor about data in the cloud maybe delayed...but its not necessarily out of place.  It&#039;s like boiling a frog by turning up the water temperature slowly.  We&#039;ve been slowly putting more and more of our data out in the cloud across multiple services without necessarily realizing the risks. Each service, by itself, doesn&#039;t get noticed. Having google out there pontentially conciliating all those services and all our data under a single umbrella maybe a step too big for most people to ignore without finally noticing the discomfort.

I say, we take this opportunity to be as shrill as possible about potential privacy concerns in the cloud. Use Google&#039;s size and reach as a pretext to start shedding light onto data privacy and data sharing practises that are already established industry standards. Practises nobody really wants to talk about.  If we publicly hold up Google to their own &quot;do no evil&quot; corporate policy standard when it comes to safegaurding personal data, maybe we can drag the standard up for the rest of the industry as well.  I think Google can take the scrutiny.

-jef</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ooboo:</p>
<p>The cat definitely out of the bag. But you shouldn&#8217;t be surprised that most people haven&#8217;t noticed that fact.  The alarm factor about data in the cloud maybe delayed&#8230;but its not necessarily out of place.  It&#8217;s like boiling a frog by turning up the water temperature slowly.  We&#8217;ve been slowly putting more and more of our data out in the cloud across multiple services without necessarily realizing the risks. Each service, by itself, doesn&#8217;t get noticed. Having google out there pontentially conciliating all those services and all our data under a single umbrella maybe a step too big for most people to ignore without finally noticing the discomfort.</p>
<p>I say, we take this opportunity to be as shrill as possible about potential privacy concerns in the cloud. Use Google&#8217;s size and reach as a pretext to start shedding light onto data privacy and data sharing practises that are already established industry standards. Practises nobody really wants to talk about.  If we publicly hold up Google to their own &#8220;do no evil&#8221; corporate policy standard when it comes to safegaurding personal data, maybe we can drag the standard up for the rest of the industry as well.  I think Google can take the scrutiny.</p>
<p>-jef</p>
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