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	<title>Comments on: Missing: Dell Ubuntu Desktop PCs</title>
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		<title>By: Donald</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/07/22/dell-no-longer-selling-ubuntu-linux-desktop-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-112008</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 23:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Havent seen desktops on sale under ubuntu to dell for months now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Havent seen desktops on sale under ubuntu to dell for months now.</p>
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		<title>By: Cozmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cozmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 04:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being Sold Out is the what a Dell employee told me in a one on one Dell chat.  I was helping a client attempt to purchase a Dell 537ST n series (Ubuntu) this very evening.  Dell is back to having only 3 laptop models in Ubuntu flavor.  Just like July through October.  It appears that Dell&#039;s commitment to Open Source is sporadic at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being Sold Out is the what a Dell employee told me in a one on one Dell chat.  I was helping a client attempt to purchase a Dell 537ST n series (Ubuntu) this very evening.  Dell is back to having only 3 laptop models in Ubuntu flavor.  Just like July through October.  It appears that Dell&#8217;s commitment to Open Source is sporadic at best.</p>
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		<title>By: The VAR Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/07/22/dell-no-longer-selling-ubuntu-linux-desktop-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-106757</link>
		<dc:creator>The VAR Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 03:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cozmo: Just double-checking... Are you suggesting that Dell was sold out of Ubuntu desktop models on Jan. 11, 2010? If so where did you get the info? The VAR Guy is listening... and will be sure to check in with Dell based on your feedback.
-TVG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cozmo: Just double-checking&#8230; Are you suggesting that Dell was sold out of Ubuntu desktop models on Jan. 11, 2010? If so where did you get the info? The VAR Guy is listening&#8230; and will be sure to check in with Dell based on your feedback.<br />
-TVG</p>
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		<title>By: Cozmo</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/07/22/dell-no-longer-selling-ubuntu-linux-desktop-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-106756</link>
		<dc:creator>Cozmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JANUARY 11 2010 -- Dell ran out of Ubuntu Desktop models!  The Inspiron 537ST - N was a nice desktop machine shipped without Windows as of last week.  Once again drops the ball when it comes to open source.  Imagine them running out of Windoze Machines.  They could have at least loaded Ubuntu on their Inspiron 580; but no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JANUARY 11 2010 &#8212; Dell ran out of Ubuntu Desktop models!  The Inspiron 537ST &#8211; N was a nice desktop machine shipped without Windows as of last week.  Once again drops the ball when it comes to open source.  Imagine them running out of Windoze Machines.  They could have at least loaded Ubuntu on their Inspiron 580; but no.</p>
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		<title>By: The VAR Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/07/22/dell-no-longer-selling-ubuntu-linux-desktop-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-104842</link>
		<dc:creator>The VAR Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 04:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo Adrian, you have a point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo Adrian, you have a point.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/07/22/dell-no-longer-selling-ubuntu-linux-desktop-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-104841</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still no Ubuntu desktops from Dell. I guess I have to shop elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still no Ubuntu desktops from Dell. I guess I have to shop elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: aikiwolfie</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/07/22/dell-no-longer-selling-ubuntu-linux-desktop-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-104217</link>
		<dc:creator>aikiwolfie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 12:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dells UK web site has lacked Desktop Ubuntu options for the last year. But it&#039;s not just desktop options. It&#039;s laptop options that have gone missing as well. If your in the UK, use Ubuntu and shop with Dell you can choose the Mini 10 or opt for Windows.

Not much of a choice there. Dell have lost a customer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dells UK web site has lacked Desktop Ubuntu options for the last year. But it&#8217;s not just desktop options. It&#8217;s laptop options that have gone missing as well. If your in the UK, use Ubuntu and shop with Dell you can choose the Mini 10 or opt for Windows.</p>
<p>Not much of a choice there. Dell have lost a customer.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris K</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/07/22/dell-no-longer-selling-ubuntu-linux-desktop-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-104216</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correction:

Sadly MS-Dell, like MS-HP are both relegating themselves to be not so much independent computer manufacturers serving their customer needs, rather just they are becoming defacto divisions of Microsoft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction:</p>
<p>Sadly MS-Dell, like MS-HP are both relegating themselves to be not so much independent computer manufacturers serving their customer needs, rather just they are becoming defacto divisions of Microsoft.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris K</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/07/22/dell-no-longer-selling-ubuntu-linux-desktop-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-104215</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dell 530N with Ubuntu was a sturdy Desktop, if they were going to replace it, don&#039;t you think they would have put product up as they take the other down.

Sadly MS-Dell, like MS-HP don&#039;t get it.  They are both are relegating themselves to be not so much independent computer manufacturers, rather just divisions of Microsoft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dell 530N with Ubuntu was a sturdy Desktop, if they were going to replace it, don&#8217;t you think they would have put product up as they take the other down.</p>
<p>Sadly MS-Dell, like MS-HP don&#8217;t get it.  They are both are relegating themselves to be not so much independent computer manufacturers, rather just divisions of Microsoft.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dell has no Desktop computers with Ubuntu for the home market as of 25 July 2009.  In a few weeks the back-to-school sales start.  Is Dell going the way of HP by ignoring those that are ready to spend money on an Ununtu Desktop computer?  Maybe in protest we should call Dell and HP by their new names: MS-Dell and MS-HP?  These companies clearly are so entrenched with Windows, maybe the merits of their Hardware not longer stand tall with other operating systems that some of us desire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dell has no Desktop computers with Ubuntu for the home market as of 25 July 2009.  In a few weeks the back-to-school sales start.  Is Dell going the way of HP by ignoring those that are ready to spend money on an Ununtu Desktop computer?  Maybe in protest we should call Dell and HP by their new names: MS-Dell and MS-HP?  These companies clearly are so entrenched with Windows, maybe the merits of their Hardware not longer stand tall with other operating systems that some of us desire.</p>
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		<title>By: The VAR Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/07/22/dell-no-longer-selling-ubuntu-linux-desktop-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-104204</link>
		<dc:creator>The VAR Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aikiwolfie: To continue your analogy... The fact is Dell doesn&#039;t want to sell people strawberry ice cream unless the customer is familiar with strawberry ice cream and asks for it by name.

Put another way: Dell does NOT want to market Ubuntu systems to the masses. Dell has been open and honest about this. Dell does not want to &quot;educate&quot; Windows users who aren&#039;t familiar with Linux. 

Dell DOES want to sell Ubuntu to consumers and businesses that ask for it by name. But sometimes, The VAR Guy thinks, Dell can do a better job with those efforts. 

A prime example: Dell&#039;s U.S. website has lacked a desktop Ubuntu PC option for at least two weeks... Not good...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aikiwolfie: To continue your analogy&#8230; The fact is Dell doesn&#8217;t want to sell people strawberry ice cream unless the customer is familiar with strawberry ice cream and asks for it by name.</p>
<p>Put another way: Dell does NOT want to market Ubuntu systems to the masses. Dell has been open and honest about this. Dell does not want to &#8220;educate&#8221; Windows users who aren&#8217;t familiar with Linux. </p>
<p>Dell DOES want to sell Ubuntu to consumers and businesses that ask for it by name. But sometimes, The VAR Guy thinks, Dell can do a better job with those efforts. </p>
<p>A prime example: Dell&#8217;s U.S. website has lacked a desktop Ubuntu PC option for at least two weeks&#8230; Not good&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: aikiwolfie</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/07/22/dell-no-longer-selling-ubuntu-linux-desktop-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-104203</link>
		<dc:creator>aikiwolfie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dells stance on Ubuntu is supremely confusing. Ubuntu is clearly doing relatively well in the desktop market. There are several smaller vendors building and selling PCs pre-loaded with Ubuntu and doing it well. None of them seem to be going to the wall so they must be doing something right. Some Dell aren&#039;t doing perhaps?

So Ubuntu it&#039;s self simply can&#039;t be the root of the problem.

Which means we need to look at other factors. It was only with the introduction of the Mini 9 Dell started offering Ubuntu as an option side-by-side with Windows. But even then they didn&#039;t really tell people what it was they were offering.

If all you had ever known was chocolate ice cream. Would you try strawberry ice cream if you didn&#039;t know what it was?

Are people overly critical of Dell for hiding their Ubuntu options? I don&#039;t think so. If you were selling ice cream, would you only target people who had already tried it? The fact you&#039;re already selling chocolate ice cream shouldn&#039;t stop you from selling strawberry ice cream.

Almost any other company in the world selling any other product in the world would sell similar products from different vendors side-by-side. They wouldn&#039;t shunt one into the basement.

Now finding Ubuntu based Dells is easy enough if you know where to look and if you know Ubuntu actually exists. But what if you don&#039;t? If all the strawberry ice cream is in the basement and you&#039;ve never even heard of it. How do you try it out? How do you get that first taste?

Lets say you&#039;re out shopping. There&#039;s a nice brightly lit store selling chocolate ice cream galore with all sorts of deals going on. Next to the store are some steps going to a dark dingy basement level with a tiny sign half obscured. It reads &quot;Strawberry Ice Cream here&quot;.

Are you tempted to try the strawberry ice cream?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dells stance on Ubuntu is supremely confusing. Ubuntu is clearly doing relatively well in the desktop market. There are several smaller vendors building and selling PCs pre-loaded with Ubuntu and doing it well. None of them seem to be going to the wall so they must be doing something right. Some Dell aren&#8217;t doing perhaps?</p>
<p>So Ubuntu it&#8217;s self simply can&#8217;t be the root of the problem.</p>
<p>Which means we need to look at other factors. It was only with the introduction of the Mini 9 Dell started offering Ubuntu as an option side-by-side with Windows. But even then they didn&#8217;t really tell people what it was they were offering.</p>
<p>If all you had ever known was chocolate ice cream. Would you try strawberry ice cream if you didn&#8217;t know what it was?</p>
<p>Are people overly critical of Dell for hiding their Ubuntu options? I don&#8217;t think so. If you were selling ice cream, would you only target people who had already tried it? The fact you&#8217;re already selling chocolate ice cream shouldn&#8217;t stop you from selling strawberry ice cream.</p>
<p>Almost any other company in the world selling any other product in the world would sell similar products from different vendors side-by-side. They wouldn&#8217;t shunt one into the basement.</p>
<p>Now finding Ubuntu based Dells is easy enough if you know where to look and if you know Ubuntu actually exists. But what if you don&#8217;t? If all the strawberry ice cream is in the basement and you&#8217;ve never even heard of it. How do you try it out? How do you get that first taste?</p>
<p>Lets say you&#8217;re out shopping. There&#8217;s a nice brightly lit store selling chocolate ice cream galore with all sorts of deals going on. Next to the store are some steps going to a dark dingy basement level with a tiny sign half obscured. It reads &#8220;Strawberry Ice Cream here&#8221;.</p>
<p>Are you tempted to try the strawberry ice cream?</p>
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