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	<title>Comments on: Dell&#039;s Ubuntu Strategy: Restoring My Faith</title>
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		<title>By: Victor Osim</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/08/13/dells-ubuntu-strategy-regaining-my-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-118734</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor Osim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will complite my ND As a computer scientist by nov. 2010, I wish  dell will give me the oportunity to do my IT with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will complite my ND As a computer scientist by nov. 2010, I wish  dell will give me the oportunity to do my IT with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Cozmo</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/08/13/dells-ubuntu-strategy-regaining-my-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-118733</link>
		<dc:creator>Cozmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 02:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>22 August 2009: Dell now only has one netbook and one laptop configured with Ubuntu.  Nice going MS-Dell...

Dell only has two small portable computers with Ubuntu on the USA home site.  Who said Dell is sticking with Ubuntu?  Still better than MS-Hp&#039;s product line, I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>22 August 2009: Dell now only has one netbook and one laptop configured with Ubuntu.  Nice going MS-Dell&#8230;</p>
<p>Dell only has two small portable computers with Ubuntu on the USA home site.  Who said Dell is sticking with Ubuntu?  Still better than MS-Hp&#8217;s product line, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/08/13/dells-ubuntu-strategy-regaining-my-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-118732</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cozmo,

I respectfully disagree. Dell certainly makes mistakes from time to time. But I do think they are committed to selling what users want -- even non-Microsoft system.

Yes, Dell&#039;s Ubuntu page emphasizes an opt-out to Windows but I believe that&#039;s because Dell wants to make absolutely sure customers know what they are buying.

I agree with you: Dell has poorly handled the Ubuntu desktop model disappearance. And I&#039;m disappointed to notice that Dell&#039;s consumer newspaper advertising inserts in the U.S. no longer mention Ubuntu on netbooks.

But I sense that Dell is working behind the scenes to determine if/when to preload Ubuntu 9.04 on selected systems. I hope my glass-half-full opinion of Dell&#039;s Ubuntu effort is correct...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cozmo,</p>
<p>I respectfully disagree. Dell certainly makes mistakes from time to time. But I do think they are committed to selling what users want &#8212; even non-Microsoft system.</p>
<p>Yes, Dell&#8217;s Ubuntu page emphasizes an opt-out to Windows but I believe that&#8217;s because Dell wants to make absolutely sure customers know what they are buying.</p>
<p>I agree with you: Dell has poorly handled the Ubuntu desktop model disappearance. And I&#8217;m disappointed to notice that Dell&#8217;s consumer newspaper advertising inserts in the U.S. no longer mention Ubuntu on netbooks.</p>
<p>But I sense that Dell is working behind the scenes to determine if/when to preload Ubuntu 9.04 on selected systems. I hope my glass-half-full opinion of Dell&#8217;s Ubuntu effort is correct&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cozmo</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/08/13/dells-ubuntu-strategy-regaining-my-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-118731</link>
		<dc:creator>Cozmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Face it, Dell is acting like a MS subsidiary!  Even if you go to www.dell.com/ubuntu there is a link to Windows before you get to shop Ubuntu.  When you click on Shop for Ubuntu, you are sent to a page that lacks any Desktop computers running Ubuntu.  Here in the USA we&#039;re in Back-To-School mode and MS-Dell removed the 530N, and has not replaced it.  So for those that claim Dell is just changing models...enough.  Could anyone imagine a couple of months with out selling any desktop computers with Windows????

Dell is doing it&#039;s best to be MS-Dell!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Face it, Dell is acting like a MS subsidiary!  Even if you go to <a href="http://www.dell.com/ubuntu" rel="nofollow">http://www.dell.com/ubuntu</a> there is a link to Windows before you get to shop Ubuntu.  When you click on Shop for Ubuntu, you are sent to a page that lacks any Desktop computers running Ubuntu.  Here in the USA we&#8217;re in Back-To-School mode and MS-Dell removed the 530N, and has not replaced it.  So for those that claim Dell is just changing models&#8230;enough.  Could anyone imagine a couple of months with out selling any desktop computers with Windows????</p>
<p>Dell is doing it&#8217;s best to be MS-Dell!</p>
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		<title>By: ricegf</title>
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		<dc:creator>ricegf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Smartbooks can run a range of operating systems — Google Android, Windows XP, Ubuntu and more.&quot;

Smartbooks are based on ARM processors, which are not x86 compatible. As such, they will *not* run Windows XP.

Indeed, Microsoft is again pushing to redefine a netbook as a not-so-small x86 notebook, so it will have enough memory and CPU capacity to run Windows 7 (which has lighter requirements than Vista, of course, but quite significantly heavier requirements than XP). They have ceded the original netbook space to Linux, in the apparent belief that this market is not worth pursuing. We&#039;ll see.

Offering Windows CE for smartbooks is Microsoft&#039;s only announced strategy, and it is a weak strategy at best. The interesting competition in smartbooks is likely to be between Ubuntu and Android / Chrome - Linux distributions all.

We live in interesting times indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Smartbooks can run a range of operating systems — Google Android, Windows XP, Ubuntu and more.&#8221;</p>
<p>Smartbooks are based on ARM processors, which are not x86 compatible. As such, they will *not* run Windows XP.</p>
<p>Indeed, Microsoft is again pushing to redefine a netbook as a not-so-small x86 notebook, so it will have enough memory and CPU capacity to run Windows 7 (which has lighter requirements than Vista, of course, but quite significantly heavier requirements than XP). They have ceded the original netbook space to Linux, in the apparent belief that this market is not worth pursuing. We&#8217;ll see.</p>
<p>Offering Windows CE for smartbooks is Microsoft&#8217;s only announced strategy, and it is a weak strategy at best. The interesting competition in smartbooks is likely to be between Ubuntu and Android / Chrome &#8211; Linux distributions all.</p>
<p>We live in interesting times indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@GregE: Intel has been doing a great job supporting Linux the right way (open source drivers, open specs), and they continue to do so. Gotta love that. However, they screwed up with the GMA500, big time:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&amp;px=NzQzMg

@anechoic: yes, but vendors are growing increasingly tired of MS&#039; tyranny: IBM pushing Linux on servers for the last 10 years, Dell trying hard, phone makers like Nokia with Linux initiatives, and the list goes, I think they&#039;ll burn MS alive as soon as they can ... (and yes, I realize it will take time)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@GregE: Intel has been doing a great job supporting Linux the right way (open source drivers, open specs), and they continue to do so. Gotta love that. However, they screwed up with the GMA500, big time:<br />
<a href="http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&#038;px=NzQzMg" rel="nofollow">http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&#038;px=NzQzMg</a></p>
<p>@anechoic: yes, but vendors are growing increasingly tired of MS&#8217; tyranny: IBM pushing Linux on servers for the last 10 years, Dell trying hard, phone makers like Nokia with Linux initiatives, and the list goes, I think they&#8217;ll burn MS alive as soon as they can &#8230; (and yes, I realize it will take time)</p>
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		<title>By: anechoic</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/08/13/dells-ubuntu-strategy-regaining-my-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-118728</link>
		<dc:creator>anechoic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Leo: exactly...if MS would stop pressuring hardware manuf to drop OS&#039;s other than Windows - Ubuntu might stand a chance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Leo: exactly&#8230;if MS would stop pressuring hardware manuf to drop OS&#8217;s other than Windows &#8211; Ubuntu might stand a chance</p>
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		<title>By: aikiwolfie</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/08/13/dells-ubuntu-strategy-regaining-my-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-118727</link>
		<dc:creator>aikiwolfie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I purchased my M1330n from Dell it cost me £1700+. That&#039;s expensive for a 13&quot; laptop here in the UK. So cost for me when choosing Ubuntu wasn&#039;t a factor. I agree with Joe when he says we need to stop talking about cost and start talking about value.

I am however not convinced by Dells reassurances about Linux. I very much get the impression Dell are only involved with selling Linux based systems to consumers because the have to be. Their competitors are doing it to one degree or another so Dell must also offer something. They can&#039;t afford to be left out.

The way Dell operates is also a clear source of frustration for it&#039;s customers. Dells web presence is from my perspective entirely US orientated. When it comes to the web Dell seems to forget it&#039;s a global player. The web is a &quot;global community&quot; with no borders. Dell needs to learn that lesson fast.

If something is available in the USA, I expect it to be available here in the UK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I purchased my M1330n from Dell it cost me £1700+. That&#8217;s expensive for a 13&#8243; laptop here in the UK. So cost for me when choosing Ubuntu wasn&#8217;t a factor. I agree with Joe when he says we need to stop talking about cost and start talking about value.</p>
<p>I am however not convinced by Dells reassurances about Linux. I very much get the impression Dell are only involved with selling Linux based systems to consumers because the have to be. Their competitors are doing it to one degree or another so Dell must also offer something. They can&#8217;t afford to be left out.</p>
<p>The way Dell operates is also a clear source of frustration for it&#8217;s customers. Dells web presence is from my perspective entirely US orientated. When it comes to the web Dell seems to forget it&#8217;s a global player. The web is a &#8220;global community&#8221; with no borders. Dell needs to learn that lesson fast.</p>
<p>If something is available in the USA, I expect it to be available here in the UK.</p>
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		<title>By: GregE</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dell will not be putting 9.10 on any netbook with a GMA500 chipset unless someone fixes the drivers. It took me half a day to get my Mini 12 to function properly with 9.04. Unless Dell can pressure Intel to come up with a new Poulsbo driver it will not function with 9.10 because the kernel and xorg versions will be too new.

I hope they do, as it will mean I will be able to upgrade as well. And Dell is the only player with enough muscle to make it happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dell will not be putting 9.10 on any netbook with a GMA500 chipset unless someone fixes the drivers. It took me half a day to get my Mini 12 to function properly with 9.04. Unless Dell can pressure Intel to come up with a new Poulsbo driver it will not function with 9.10 because the kernel and xorg versions will be too new.</p>
<p>I hope they do, as it will mean I will be able to upgrade as well. And Dell is the only player with enough muscle to make it happen.</p>
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		<title>By: pt</title>
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		<dc:creator>pt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 01:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dell won&#039;t sell Ubuntu option in Australia including the Dell minis. Australia is not some backwater too we have one of the highest percentage of Firefox users, i.e. people are more IT aware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dell won&#8217;t sell Ubuntu option in Australia including the Dell minis. Australia is not some backwater too we have one of the highest percentage of Firefox users, i.e. people are more IT aware.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/08/13/dells-ubuntu-strategy-regaining-my-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-118724</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gil: Good catch/correction. Sorry about the error. Snapdragon&#039;s documentation mentions Windows Mobile support (essentially CE, as you point out). I was wrong to mention XP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gil: Good catch/correction. Sorry about the error. Snapdragon&#8217;s documentation mentions Windows Mobile support (essentially CE, as you point out). I was wrong to mention XP.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just playing around, I went through customization setups of the mini 10, one with xp and one with ubuntu, and one thing occured to me. Why do they cost the same? You can get download Ubuntu free, shouldn&#039;t it be cheaper?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just playing around, I went through customization setups of the mini 10, one with xp and one with ubuntu, and one thing occured to me. Why do they cost the same? You can get download Ubuntu free, shouldn&#8217;t it be cheaper?</p>
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