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		<title>By: josvazg</title>
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		<dc:creator>josvazg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 11:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Public Clouds: ARE NOT AN OPTION if you or your bussines have ANY sensitive data... will you put your critical and private bussiness information into somebody elses servers?
(Canonical, IBM, Microsoft, Google... you-name-it)?

It might just be useful for very small bussines with net or IT needs not attached to their main bussines (a small car repair center, for instance) and NOT having any IT staff at all.



Private Clouds like UBUNTU current one ARE NOT PRACTICAL as they DON&#039;T (YET) PROVIDE REDUNDANCY AND REPLICATION...

WITHOUT REDUNDANCY AND REPLICATION A PRIVATE CLOUD IS USELESS!!!!

I mean it&#039;s cool that I can play with disk images (possibly precooked) of virtual systems and that I can put more or less resouces to work on them instead of doing the same iron-per-iron... but in a traditional server room if a server fails usually one or two services fail... whereas in the private clould chances are that JUST ONE server that fails makes the WHOLE cloud fail or most services at once...UNLESS you had that data replication and service redundancy that CURRENTLY Ubuntu/Eucaliptus cloud does not provide.

For now (even at Lucid release) its a good toy to play with, but nothing more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Public Clouds: ARE NOT AN OPTION if you or your bussines have ANY sensitive data&#8230; will you put your critical and private bussiness information into somebody elses servers?<br />
(Canonical, IBM, Microsoft, Google&#8230; you-name-it)?</p>
<p>It might just be useful for very small bussines with net or IT needs not attached to their main bussines (a small car repair center, for instance) and NOT having any IT staff at all.</p>
<p>Private Clouds like UBUNTU current one ARE NOT PRACTICAL as they DON&#8217;T (YET) PROVIDE REDUNDANCY AND REPLICATION&#8230;</p>
<p>WITHOUT REDUNDANCY AND REPLICATION A PRIVATE CLOUD IS USELESS!!!!</p>
<p>I mean it&#8217;s cool that I can play with disk images (possibly precooked) of virtual systems and that I can put more or less resouces to work on them instead of doing the same iron-per-iron&#8230; but in a traditional server room if a server fails usually one or two services fail&#8230; whereas in the private clould chances are that JUST ONE server that fails makes the WHOLE cloud fail or most services at once&#8230;UNLESS you had that data replication and service redundancy that CURRENTLY Ubuntu/Eucaliptus cloud does not provide.</p>
<p>For now (even at Lucid release) its a good toy to play with, but nothing more.</p>
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		<title>By: aikiwolfie</title>
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		<dc:creator>aikiwolfie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Although cloud computing remains a somewhat ambiguous concept&quot; ...

For me cloud computing has always been a return to the client/server model where a terminal, dumb or otherwise, relies on a server to deliver useful services.

The only differences today are scale and commercial opportunities. The cloud can function on local and global scales and we don&#039;t need armies of internal IT staff to get it set up and keep it running. Google, IBM, Canonical, Red Hat and others will all be happy to provide this service for an affordable price.

Which means even small businesses can really start to leverage the internet to punch well above their weight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Although cloud computing remains a somewhat ambiguous concept&#8221; &#8230;</p>
<p>For me cloud computing has always been a return to the client/server model where a terminal, dumb or otherwise, relies on a server to deliver useful services.</p>
<p>The only differences today are scale and commercial opportunities. The cloud can function on local and global scales and we don&#8217;t need armies of internal IT staff to get it set up and keep it running. Google, IBM, Canonical, Red Hat and others will all be happy to provide this service for an affordable price.</p>
<p>Which means even small businesses can really start to leverage the internet to punch well above their weight.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicolas Barcet (nijaba) 's status on Tuesday, 15-Sep-09 14:57:22 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicolas Barcet (nijaba) 's status on Tuesday, 15-Sep-09 14:57:22 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Koen Vervloesem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koen Vervloesem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you referred to XDMCP, I also immediately thought about the NX protocol. For example, Eric Hammond&#039;s Ubuntu and Debian desktop AMIs listed on http://alestic.com come with a FreeNX server by default. With an NX client on your computer, you can run an Ubuntu desktop on Amazon EC2. I tried it a couple of months ago, and the remote FreeNX desktop on EC2 is so responsive that you easily forget that you are working on a remote machine &quot;in the cloud&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you referred to XDMCP, I also immediately thought about the NX protocol. For example, Eric Hammond&#8217;s Ubuntu and Debian desktop AMIs listed on <a href="http://alestic.com" rel="nofollow">http://alestic.com</a> come with a FreeNX server by default. With an NX client on your computer, you can run an Ubuntu desktop on Amazon EC2. I tried it a couple of months ago, and the remote FreeNX desktop on EC2 is so responsive that you easily forget that you are working on a remote machine &#8220;in the cloud&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ubuntu Cloud (ubuntucloud) 's status on Tuesday, 15-Sep-09 08:21:27 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ubuntu Cloud (ubuntucloud) 's status on Tuesday, 15-Sep-09 08:21:27 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Because of bandwidth limitations and security issues, XDMCP is only practical within a private network, but I’d love to find ways to use it or something similar on a larger scale, and the potential for doing so exists in the cloud.&quot;

I&#039;m not sure if it fits into this whole &quot;cloud&quot; fad, but FreeNX will do the same thing over the Internet, securely and with low bandwidth requirements.  I don&#039;t know why it isn&#039;t installed and enabled as Ubuntu&#039;s &quot;Remote Desktop&quot; by default...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Because of bandwidth limitations and security issues, XDMCP is only practical within a private network, but I’d love to find ways to use it or something similar on a larger scale, and the potential for doing so exists in the cloud.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if it fits into this whole &#8220;cloud&#8221; fad, but FreeNX will do the same thing over the Internet, securely and with low bandwidth requirements.  I don&#8217;t know why it isn&#8217;t installed and enabled as Ubuntu&#8217;s &#8220;Remote Desktop&#8221; by default&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: László Torma (toros) 's status on Monday, 14-Sep-09 17:51:39 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>László Torma (toros) 's status on Monday, 14-Sep-09 17:51:39 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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