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	<title>Comments on: ZaReason Bolsters Ubuntu 9.10 Branding</title>
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		<title>By: Rajmahendra</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/10/29/zareason-bolsters-ubuntu-910-branding/comment-page-1/#comment-119747</link>
		<dc:creator>Rajmahendra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am from India, can i get one :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am from India, can i get one <img src='http://c810354.r54.cf2.rackcdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mackenzie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mackenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 00:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andy:
It says &quot;stick of&quot; because it&#039;s a row or strip of stickers.  But yes, they stick-on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andy:<br />
It says &#8220;stick of&#8221; because it&#8217;s a row or strip of stickers.  But yes, they stick-on.</p>
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		<title>By: Nonny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction: It says on the page I linked to:

&quot;Order yours today and get enough case badges to share with 10 other friends!&quot;

So that means you will get 10 badges in addition to the one stuck on your new Zareason computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction: It says on the page I linked to:</p>
<p>&#8220;Order yours today and get enough case badges to share with 10 other friends!&#8221;</p>
<p>So that means you will get 10 badges in addition to the one stuck on your new Zareason computer.</p>
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		<title>By: Nonny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.zareason.com/shop/product.php?productid=16197&amp;cat=251&amp;page=1

They are stick-on badges, but by the phrase &quot;stick of&quot; I assume they mean you will get 5 or 10 of them to stick on your other machine, give to friends, etc.</description>
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<p>They are stick-on badges, but by the phrase &#8220;stick of&#8221; I assume they mean you will get 5 or 10 of them to stick on your other machine, give to friends, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: aikiwolfie</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/10/29/zareason-bolsters-ubuntu-910-branding/comment-page-1/#comment-119743</link>
		<dc:creator>aikiwolfie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JanC ... I use the Avira free download page quite often when repairing Windows systems. But the fact remains. Anti-virus software costs money or time or both. So you&#039;re spending additional resources to keep a system running properly that should runs just fine.

And why should anybody need to put up with a nag screen just to keep their PC that they have already paid for running properly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JanC &#8230; I use the Avira free download page quite often when repairing Windows systems. But the fact remains. Anti-virus software costs money or time or both. So you&#8217;re spending additional resources to keep a system running properly that should runs just fine.</p>
<p>And why should anybody need to put up with a nag screen just to keep their PC that they have already paid for running properly?</p>
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		<title>By: Simplicius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simplicius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JP
&quot;I also plan to run Windows 7 real soon. This may sound crazy,&quot;

Well, that made me chuckle. I mean, the very idea that running Windows 7 may sound crazy to some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JP<br />
&#8220;I also plan to run Windows 7 real soon. This may sound crazy,&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, that made me chuckle. I mean, the very idea that running Windows 7 may sound crazy to some.</p>
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		<title>By: JanC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JanC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@d0od: yeah, many people love those stickers (I&#039;m the contact address for the free System76-stickers in my locoteam).

@Steve: I understand very well the arguments of scale that make Dell cheaper than ZaReason or System76.  I also understand that means companies like those 2 have to compete on another field (basic service level &amp; a more personal treatment for example).

I bought my current desktop from somebody I know who was willing to investigate finding a motherboard etc. that matched my requirements *and* worked with Ubuntu/linux.  I&#039;m sure a similar PC from Dell or HP would have been cheaper, but... they didn&#039;t sell one.  ;-)

@aikiwolfie: a good &amp; rather lightweight antivirus for Windows is the German &quot;AntiVir&quot;, and if you don&#039;t mind a &quot;nag screen&quot; during updates, it&#039;s also free...  ;-)

That said, the lack of usability in Windows means I prefer linux/Ubuntu.  :P

@Jef (who didn&#039;t show up yet, but I&#039;m sure he will ;) ): The brand recognition thing is one of the ways that ZaReason &amp; System76 &quot;pay back&quot; to Canonical currently.  I doubt it&#039;s beneficial for them to pay Canonical for OEM services at this moment, but they can pay back this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@d0od: yeah, many people love those stickers (I&#8217;m the contact address for the free System76-stickers in my locoteam).</p>
<p>@Steve: I understand very well the arguments of scale that make Dell cheaper than ZaReason or System76.  I also understand that means companies like those 2 have to compete on another field (basic service level &amp; a more personal treatment for example).</p>
<p>I bought my current desktop from somebody I know who was willing to investigate finding a motherboard etc. that matched my requirements *and* worked with Ubuntu/linux.  I&#8217;m sure a similar PC from Dell or HP would have been cheaper, but&#8230; they didn&#8217;t sell one.  <img src='http://c810354.r54.cf2.rackcdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@aikiwolfie: a good &amp; rather lightweight antivirus for Windows is the German &#8220;AntiVir&#8221;, and if you don&#8217;t mind a &#8220;nag screen&#8221; during updates, it&#8217;s also free&#8230;  <img src='http://c810354.r54.cf2.rackcdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That said, the lack of usability in Windows means I prefer linux/Ubuntu.  <img src='http://c810354.r54.cf2.rackcdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Jef (who didn&#8217;t show up yet, but I&#8217;m sure he will <img src='http://c810354.r54.cf2.rackcdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ): The brand recognition thing is one of the ways that ZaReason &amp; System76 &#8220;pay back&#8221; to Canonical currently.  I doubt it&#8217;s beneficial for them to pay Canonical for OEM services at this moment, but they can pay back this way.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that &quot;stick on&quot; or &quot;stick of?&quot;  A stick on badge makes sense, but what the hell is a stick of badges?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that &#8220;stick on&#8221; or &#8220;stick of?&#8221;  A stick on badge makes sense, but what the hell is a stick of badges?</p>
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		<title>By: aikiwolfie</title>
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		<dc:creator>aikiwolfie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People never look at the hidden costs in owning a PC running Windows. I personally liken Windows to a leaky bucket. All the patches from Microsoft and all the security software doesn&#039;t fix all the leaks.

Additional security software also costs money or time or both. If you buy a Dell running Windows you will get a trial copy of McAfee. It&#039;s a time limited trial copy. After 90 days or so it times out and you need to shell out more cash to keep the PC you&#039;ve already paid for running properly.

To add insult to injury McAfee will not uninstall without wiping the hard drive clean. I&#039;ve tried it on several Dell PCs. The uninstaller always manages to find a problem that stops it in it&#039;s tracks. Norton could be even worse. In the past it&#039;s had accusations that it leaves behind spyware that reports back to Microsoft.

Then theirs system maintenance. Why is it that the Windows registry always manages to get corrupted or bogged down with orphaned entries? Shouldn&#039;t the OS looks after the registry rather than allowing just any application access? Registry hives are vitally important to a Windows system after all.

I personally prefer the Linux approach to security. The extra cost is worth the quality. And speaking of costs. Windows 7 upgraders with relatively new PCs are facing a major upgrade bill. Pay at least a few hundred pounds/dollars for a new PC or nearly as much for a retail copy of Windows 7. Upgrading Ubuntu is free. 9.10 is free and 10.04 will also be free.

The Windows 7 sums just don&#039;t add up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People never look at the hidden costs in owning a PC running Windows. I personally liken Windows to a leaky bucket. All the patches from Microsoft and all the security software doesn&#8217;t fix all the leaks.</p>
<p>Additional security software also costs money or time or both. If you buy a Dell running Windows you will get a trial copy of McAfee. It&#8217;s a time limited trial copy. After 90 days or so it times out and you need to shell out more cash to keep the PC you&#8217;ve already paid for running properly.</p>
<p>To add insult to injury McAfee will not uninstall without wiping the hard drive clean. I&#8217;ve tried it on several Dell PCs. The uninstaller always manages to find a problem that stops it in it&#8217;s tracks. Norton could be even worse. In the past it&#8217;s had accusations that it leaves behind spyware that reports back to Microsoft.</p>
<p>Then theirs system maintenance. Why is it that the Windows registry always manages to get corrupted or bogged down with orphaned entries? Shouldn&#8217;t the OS looks after the registry rather than allowing just any application access? Registry hives are vitally important to a Windows system after all.</p>
<p>I personally prefer the Linux approach to security. The extra cost is worth the quality. And speaking of costs. Windows 7 upgraders with relatively new PCs are facing a major upgrade bill. Pay at least a few hundred pounds/dollars for a new PC or nearly as much for a retail copy of Windows 7. Upgrading Ubuntu is free. 9.10 is free and 10.04 will also be free.</p>
<p>The Windows 7 sums just don&#8217;t add up.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve@8: I apologize if this comment sounds a little out of touch, but I&#039;m happy to spend a bit extra to buy a system from ZaReason and/or System76 with Ubuntu preloaded.

For me, Linux isn&#039;t about a big &quot;price&quot; advantage over Windows. Instead, it&#039;s about a reliable alternative to Windows. And I&#039;m actually willing to pay a little more for an Ubuntu system vs. a Windows system if it means I get personalized, reliable service. And in the case of ZaReason and System76, I&#039;ve always received good, solid service.

On paper, Linux-based systems should cost less than Windows-based systems, simply because of the OS cost. So maybe I&#039;m crazy for opening my wallet slightly wider for a system preloaded with Ubuntu. But I&#039;ll continue to do it for peace of mind.

P.S.: I also plan to run Windows 7 real soon. This may sound crazy, too, but I think a strong offering from Microsoft will inspire the Linux camps to continue innovating as well. I look forward to putting Windows 7 through its paces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve@8: I apologize if this comment sounds a little out of touch, but I&#8217;m happy to spend a bit extra to buy a system from ZaReason and/or System76 with Ubuntu preloaded.</p>
<p>For me, Linux isn&#8217;t about a big &#8220;price&#8221; advantage over Windows. Instead, it&#8217;s about a reliable alternative to Windows. And I&#8217;m actually willing to pay a little more for an Ubuntu system vs. a Windows system if it means I get personalized, reliable service. And in the case of ZaReason and System76, I&#8217;ve always received good, solid service.</p>
<p>On paper, Linux-based systems should cost less than Windows-based systems, simply because of the OS cost. So maybe I&#8217;m crazy for opening my wallet slightly wider for a system preloaded with Ubuntu. But I&#8217;ll continue to do it for peace of mind.</p>
<p>P.S.: I also plan to run Windows 7 real soon. This may sound crazy, too, but I think a strong offering from Microsoft will inspire the Linux camps to continue innovating as well. I look forward to putting Windows 7 through its paces.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Steve, I got a Refurb Dell Mini for $209, 8GB SSD, 1Gb RAM, from the Dell Outlet. It came with Ubuntu 8.04, but I had no troubles putting Kubuntu 9.10 in it. Are you looking for laptops or smaller netbooks?

I would look into dell in any case ... they also sell new laptops:
http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&amp;cs=19&amp;l=en&amp;s=dhs

I guess $489 for an Inspiron 15in doesn&#039;t seem bad. They also have some Ubuntu notebooks in the outlet some times.

Hope this helps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steve, I got a Refurb Dell Mini for $209, 8GB SSD, 1Gb RAM, from the Dell Outlet. It came with Ubuntu 8.04, but I had no troubles putting Kubuntu 9.10 in it. Are you looking for laptops or smaller netbooks?</p>
<p>I would look into dell in any case &#8230; they also sell new laptops:<br />
<a href="http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&#038;cs=19&#038;l=en&#038;s=dhs" rel="nofollow">http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&#038;cs=19&#038;l=en&#038;s=dhs</a></p>
<p>I guess $489 for an Inspiron 15in doesn&#8217;t seem bad. They also have some Ubuntu notebooks in the outlet some times.</p>
<p>Hope this helps!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Offtopic but I&#039;m looking to buy 2 laptops for my daughters with Ubuntu 9.10 on it.  They already use Ubuntu on a workstation and love it.  However, I&#039;ve noticed it seems cheaper to just buy a Windows laptop and load Ubuntu on it rather than buy from someone who preloads UBUNUTU (Zareason or System76).  Don&#039;t get me wrong, I would love to support Linux vendors, but it seems they are always quite a bit higher in price.  Any suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Offtopic but I&#8217;m looking to buy 2 laptops for my daughters with Ubuntu 9.10 on it.  They already use Ubuntu on a workstation and love it.  However, I&#8217;ve noticed it seems cheaper to just buy a Windows laptop and load Ubuntu on it rather than buy from someone who preloads UBUNUTU (Zareason or System76).  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I would love to support Linux vendors, but it seems they are always quite a bit higher in price.  Any suggestions?</p>
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