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		<title>By: Christopher Tozzi</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/12/09/the-quest-for-an-ubuntu-netbook/comment-page-1/#comment-120109</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Tozzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>andrew: I didn&#039;t end up buying the Terra A20; I bought a Latitude 2100 from Dell.  It has a six-cell battery (which cost thirty or forty dollars more than the standard three-cell, I think) that provides really phenomenal battery life.  I can get six hours (at least in theory; I&#039;ve never let it drain to the end) easily with the screen turned up all the way, or almost eight hours if I turn the screen down and kill the wireless.

If the A20 has a three-cell battery, I would think that 3.5 hours of battery life would be about what you&#039;d expect.  If you want more runtime, ask if you could upgrade to six-cell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>andrew: I didn&#8217;t end up buying the Terra A20; I bought a Latitude 2100 from Dell.  It has a six-cell battery (which cost thirty or forty dollars more than the standard three-cell, I think) that provides really phenomenal battery life.  I can get six hours (at least in theory; I&#8217;ve never let it drain to the end) easily with the screen turned up all the way, or almost eight hours if I turn the screen down and kill the wireless.</p>
<p>If the A20 has a three-cell battery, I would think that 3.5 hours of battery life would be about what you&#8217;d expect.  If you want more runtime, ask if you could upgrade to six-cell.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@christopher: according to the linked page at ZaReason, the terra A20 gets only about 3.5 hours of battery life which seems drastically low.  What has your experience been with the battery?  Is that accurate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@christopher: according to the linked page at ZaReason, the terra A20 gets only about 3.5 hours of battery life which seems drastically low.  What has your experience been with the battery?  Is that accurate?</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 03:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Fred: &quot;I think it is foolish to demand a Windows-free computer&quot;. Calle me a fool, but I don&#039;t need windows, so I don&#039;t want a computer with Windows. Moreover, I won&#039;t accept MS bullying. They threatened the HW manufacturers after the scare you mentioned, they literally gave up XP initially to folks using the EEE with Linux, then they decided not to EOL Win XP, and finally they gave it away to the threatened hardware manufacturers. Later on, they announced that &quot;people prefer windows on netbooks&quot;. If you are happy being part of that story, so be it, I would not. I only buy hardware with Linux preinstalled, and otherwise with no OS.

I agree with everything else you say. I payed $200 for my refurbed netbook, and I&#039;ll be happy if it makes it for two years. Then I&#039;ll have the choice of a new battery for a 100, or a full netbook, much better than the old one, for 200. Decisions, decisions :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Fred: &#8220;I think it is foolish to demand a Windows-free computer&#8221;. Calle me a fool, but I don&#8217;t need windows, so I don&#8217;t want a computer with Windows. Moreover, I won&#8217;t accept MS bullying. They threatened the HW manufacturers after the scare you mentioned, they literally gave up XP initially to folks using the EEE with Linux, then they decided not to EOL Win XP, and finally they gave it away to the threatened hardware manufacturers. Later on, they announced that &#8220;people prefer windows on netbooks&#8221;. If you are happy being part of that story, so be it, I would not. I only buy hardware with Linux preinstalled, and otherwise with no OS.</p>
<p>I agree with everything else you say. I payed $200 for my refurbed netbook, and I&#8217;ll be happy if it makes it for two years. Then I&#8217;ll have the choice of a new battery for a 100, or a full netbook, much better than the old one, for 200. Decisions, decisions <img src='http://c810354.r54.cf2.rackcdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 00:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought 2 Dell Mini10V models refurbished for $259, with WinXP pre-installed. I think it is foolish to demand a Windows-free computer. There are still way too many programs that must be run on Windows. Case in point: the Pimsleur language learning SDHC chips require Windows Media Player. Good luck trying to run that combination under Wine. Also, the tax for WinXP was miniscule, because MSFT was terrified of the Linxu threat when the first EEE was released running Linux (the tax for Win7 is much higher). It has been months since I lasted booted up with WinXP, but it is very nice to know it is there if I need it.

I fail to see the issue with SSD&#039;s. Modern hard drives are not that unreliable. A netbook won&#039;t last forever. The lithion-ion battery will eventually wear out, you&#039;ll probably break some of the keys banging on them or spilling food on them eventually, the various sockets will eventually break from plugging in and removing cords, etc. A better idea is to buy cheap and then plan to replace when it breaks. $259 is quite cheap.

The one thing that doesn&#039;t work on the Dell Mini10V is the 4-in-1 card reader (SDHC, etc). It sort-of works, but then stops working. I don&#039;t need this thing, so it doesn&#039;t matter to me. Maybe there is a fix out there. The Broadcom wireless might require some tweaking during installation--there is a huge amount of documentation on this in the help forums. I recommend creating your own syndaemon start-up, with a 10 second or more timeout, rather than using the built-in vesion, which hardcodes the timeout at .5 seconds (yes, half a second). This is a Ubuntu bug, nothing to do with Dell, but it is annoying as hell given how close the Dell touchpad is to the keyboard. I use a USB RF mouse myself, and so disable the touchpad entirely with a start-up app (synclient TouchpadOff=1). If I really need the touchpad (because the mouse is missing) I can also re-enable using the keyboard.

The last person asked about the keyboard. I&#039;m pretty happy with my dell keyboard and I&#039;m a touch typist from way back. It took a week or so to get used to the new layout, but that&#039;s been true of every laptop I&#039;ve every bought. Most of the manufacturers offer a photo of the keyboard online, so you can see how the special keys are arranged, which is what matters. I&#039;m assuming you get at least a 10&quot; screen (keyboard 90% of full-size). Keyboards on the smaller models are going to be quite cramped if you have big men&#039;s hands, like me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought 2 Dell Mini10V models refurbished for $259, with WinXP pre-installed. I think it is foolish to demand a Windows-free computer. There are still way too many programs that must be run on Windows. Case in point: the Pimsleur language learning SDHC chips require Windows Media Player. Good luck trying to run that combination under Wine. Also, the tax for WinXP was miniscule, because MSFT was terrified of the Linxu threat when the first EEE was released running Linux (the tax for Win7 is much higher). It has been months since I lasted booted up with WinXP, but it is very nice to know it is there if I need it.</p>
<p>I fail to see the issue with SSD&#8217;s. Modern hard drives are not that unreliable. A netbook won&#8217;t last forever. The lithion-ion battery will eventually wear out, you&#8217;ll probably break some of the keys banging on them or spilling food on them eventually, the various sockets will eventually break from plugging in and removing cords, etc. A better idea is to buy cheap and then plan to replace when it breaks. $259 is quite cheap.</p>
<p>The one thing that doesn&#8217;t work on the Dell Mini10V is the 4-in-1 card reader (SDHC, etc). It sort-of works, but then stops working. I don&#8217;t need this thing, so it doesn&#8217;t matter to me. Maybe there is a fix out there. The Broadcom wireless might require some tweaking during installation&#8211;there is a huge amount of documentation on this in the help forums. I recommend creating your own syndaemon start-up, with a 10 second or more timeout, rather than using the built-in vesion, which hardcodes the timeout at .5 seconds (yes, half a second). This is a Ubuntu bug, nothing to do with Dell, but it is annoying as hell given how close the Dell touchpad is to the keyboard. I use a USB RF mouse myself, and so disable the touchpad entirely with a start-up app (synclient TouchpadOff=1). If I really need the touchpad (because the mouse is missing) I can also re-enable using the keyboard.</p>
<p>The last person asked about the keyboard. I&#8217;m pretty happy with my dell keyboard and I&#8217;m a touch typist from way back. It took a week or so to get used to the new layout, but that&#8217;s been true of every laptop I&#8217;ve every bought. Most of the manufacturers offer a photo of the keyboard online, so you can see how the special keys are arranged, which is what matters. I&#8217;m assuming you get at least a 10&#8243; screen (keyboard 90% of full-size). Keyboards on the smaller models are going to be quite cramped if you have big men&#8217;s hands, like me.</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/12/09/the-quest-for-an-ubuntu-netbook/comment-page-1/#comment-120105</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 20:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone comment on the keyboards of the various models? Ease of typing is a major consideration for me, and the manufacturers give little or no information about keyboards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone comment on the keyboards of the various models? Ease of typing is a major consideration for me, and the manufacturers give little or no information about keyboards.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Reames</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/12/09/the-quest-for-an-ubuntu-netbook/comment-page-1/#comment-120104</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Reames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought an EeePC and promptly replaced the 4gig SSD with a 32Gig SSD.  I then trashed the OS that came on the 900A and replaced it with various versions of Ubuntu and finally settled on Xubuntu and the best choice.  Easy Peasy and others were too much like the OS that came on the 4gig SSD.  I have yet to upgrade the RAM to 2GIG as the system runs fine without it.

You can get EeePC&#039;s without Windows so I recommend checking them as a starting point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought an EeePC and promptly replaced the 4gig SSD with a 32Gig SSD.  I then trashed the OS that came on the 900A and replaced it with various versions of Ubuntu and finally settled on Xubuntu and the best choice.  Easy Peasy and others were too much like the OS that came on the 4gig SSD.  I have yet to upgrade the RAM to 2GIG as the system runs fine without it.</p>
<p>You can get EeePC&#8217;s without Windows so I recommend checking them as a starting point.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chris, interesting article!

Dell isn&#039;t a terrible option if you know your way around their site. You can actually configure the Mini 10vn with 2GB if you order it through the Dell Business division. Currently your spec plus the 2GB upgrade comes to $359. Sounds like a better option than your alternatives.

http://www.dell.com/content/products/RBIredirect.aspx?rbi=EESJuqJJunKzV5pVrEFOw3wYxiHXb2uK9L/JIV67WOU3UkEJeYpQS9tWl0gNmEwJ+ZN+mAnfTBzucYifbs+ZgMf9zjNU0SGjp/CwTvdf7fMTcDmUSnmNiteLjRLlQa8r5XZFM45AgQg1/mYFpICVQU8Kl96X6Si35EbG1U0BTLI=

How&#039;d I get here?
Dell.com
&quot;For Small and Medium Business&quot;
&quot;Laptops and Netbooks&quot;
(Choose 10v)
Click Ubuntu build in the far left column</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chris, interesting article!</p>
<p>Dell isn&#8217;t a terrible option if you know your way around their site. You can actually configure the Mini 10vn with 2GB if you order it through the Dell Business division. Currently your spec plus the 2GB upgrade comes to $359. Sounds like a better option than your alternatives.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dell.com/content/products/RBIredirect.aspx?rbi=EESJuqJJunKzV5pVrEFOw3wYxiHXb2uK9L/JIV67WOU3UkEJeYpQS9tWl0gNmEwJ+ZN+mAnfTBzucYifbs+ZgMf9zjNU0SGjp/CwTvdf7fMTcDmUSnmNiteLjRLlQa8r5XZFM45AgQg1/mYFpICVQU8Kl96X6Si35EbG1U0BTLI" rel="nofollow">http://www.dell.com/content/products/RBIredirect.aspx?rbi=EESJuqJJunKzV5pVrEFOw3wYxiHXb2uK9L/JIV67WOU3UkEJeYpQS9tWl0gNmEwJ+ZN+mAnfTBzucYifbs+ZgMf9zjNU0SGjp/CwTvdf7fMTcDmUSnmNiteLjRLlQa8r5XZFM45AgQg1/mYFpICVQU8Kl96X6Si35EbG1U0BTLI</a>=</p>
<p>How&#8217;d I get here?<br />
Dell.com<br />
&#8220;For Small and Medium Business&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Laptops and Netbooks&#8221;<br />
(Choose 10v)<br />
Click Ubuntu build in the far left column</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Tozzi</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/12/09/the-quest-for-an-ubuntu-netbook/comment-page-1/#comment-120102</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Tozzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to everyone who offered suggestions.  I was made aware of a lot of options that I hadn&#039;t considered.  I finally made a decision and hope to write another post about it in coming days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to everyone who offered suggestions.  I was made aware of a lot of options that I hadn&#8217;t considered.  I finally made a decision and hope to write another post about it in coming days.</p>
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		<title>By: brian t</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you get hold of an eee PC 1000, maybe 2nd hand? Mine is now well over a year old and going strong. 8+32GB SSD, Ubuntu goes straight on. My only quibble is the SSD performance profile, which takes a little getting used to: quick response but bulk transfers can be slow. I prefer XFCE myself (as used by Xubuntu), which is snappier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you get hold of an eee PC 1000, maybe 2nd hand? Mine is now well over a year old and going strong. 8+32GB SSD, Ubuntu goes straight on. My only quibble is the SSD performance profile, which takes a little getting used to: quick response but bulk transfers can be slow. I prefer XFCE myself (as used by Xubuntu), which is snappier.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dell Vostro V13 Linux option has NO customization options.  Want a Core 2 CPU rather than that Celeron, pay the MS tax.  Want 4 gigs of ram rather than 2, pay the tax.  Want a larger HD, pay tax.  Want a better wireless card than Dell&#039;s flaky 1397, tax.

Thanks Dell.  None of these options effect the ability of the system to run Linux.  Heck the wireless option actually limits it quite a bit if past experience with Dell&#039;s wireless offerings is any indication.  I will stick with Intel wireless thank you very much (An option on most other &quot;Business&quot; oriented models like my Latitude).

In my view Dell is only playing lip service to the Linux crowd.

Charlie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dell Vostro V13 Linux option has NO customization options.  Want a Core 2 CPU rather than that Celeron, pay the MS tax.  Want 4 gigs of ram rather than 2, pay the tax.  Want a larger HD, pay tax.  Want a better wireless card than Dell&#8217;s flaky 1397, tax.</p>
<p>Thanks Dell.  None of these options effect the ability of the system to run Linux.  Heck the wireless option actually limits it quite a bit if past experience with Dell&#8217;s wireless offerings is any indication.  I will stick with Intel wireless thank you very much (An option on most other &#8220;Business&#8221; oriented models like my Latitude).</p>
<p>In my view Dell is only playing lip service to the Linux crowd.</p>
<p>Charlie</p>
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		<title>By: A reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>A reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Almost all your article was copied here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/the-quest-for-an-ubuntu-netbook.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost all your article was copied here: <a href="http://www.ubuntugeek.com/the-quest-for-an-ubuntu-netbook.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ubuntugeek.com/the-quest-for-an-ubuntu-netbook.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: André Cotte</title>
		<link>http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/12/09/the-quest-for-an-ubuntu-netbook/comment-page-1/#comment-120098</link>
		<dc:creator>André Cotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you considered the Lenovo Ideapad S-10-2.  I don&#039;t know if you can have it with SD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you considered the Lenovo Ideapad S-10-2.  I don&#8217;t know if you can have it with SD.</p>
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